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Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23
- From: Carl Gagliardi <c-gagliardi AT tamu.edu>
- To: "'Ma, Rongrong'" <marr AT bnl.gov>, "'STAR HardProbes PWG'" <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23
- Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 12:07:22 -0500
A voice from the peanut gallery…
BHT2 has frequently been used as an Upsilon trigger. That’s not “jets.” But it’s still Hard Probes.
On the other hand, I can’t speak to whether or not there is continuing interest in Upsilons for Runs 23/25.
Stay Healthy! Carl
From: Star-hp-l <star-hp-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> On Behalf Of Ma, Rongrong via Star-hp-l
Hello Nihar I think we have sub-subtructure measurements mentioned in the BUR. Even if not mentioned in the BUR, Run23+25 dataset still provide a great opportunity for jet measurements in general, which is why I asked what HT trigger do people ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart
ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Hello Nihar I think we have sub-subtructure measurements mentioned in the BUR. Even if not mentioned in the BUR, Run23+25 dataset still provide a great opportunity for jet measurements in general, which is why I asked what HT trigger do people usually use for such measurements. Best Rongrong > On Jun 19, 2023, at 1:00 PM, Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote: > > Hello Rongrong, > > We do not have any hp physics proposal in the past BUR 23-25 documents for AuAu runs for Jet measurements except gamma trigger. > > So I guess no one has plan also to analyze BHT2 trigger. > >> I am not sure who is interested in analyzing BHT1 trigger, but it >> could at least serve as the bridge between MB and BHT2 triggers for >> trigger bias evaluation > It is a good idea. If we need BHT with lower threshold , then BHT1 can serve the purpose. > > > Nihar > > > On 2023-06-19 21:36, Ma, Rongrong via Star-hp-l wrote: >> Hello Isaac >> For the HP-related triggers, what matters is the sampled luminosity >> rather the number of events. Of course, the ideal case would be >> sampling full luminosity, but as you noted the rates for dimuon and >> BHT1 are too high. For BHT2 (Upsilon) and BHT3 (gamma+jet) triggers, >> we should allocate enough bandwidths such that they can sample the >> full luminosity. >> One question: is the BHT2 trigger used for jet measurements in >> general? >> For the dimuon trigger, our plan is to tighten the trigger time window >> cut and apply a pre-scale to reduce it to 1 kHz. >> I am not sure who is interested in analyzing BHT1 trigger, but it >> could at least serve as the bridge between MB and BHT2 triggers for >> trigger bias evaluation. >> Best >> Rongrong >>> On Jun 16, 2023, at 5:38 PM, Mooney, Isaac via Star-hp-l >>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> As I mentioned in the PWG meeting on the 8th, we’ve been asked to >>> give input on the prescales for HardProbes-related triggers for the >>> upcoming high-luminosity data-taking period. Specifically, due to >>> high rates from the dimuon and BHT1 triggers, these may require a >>> high prescale to limit their bandwidth. Our request is for analyzers >>> planning to use Run 23 data with these triggers to provide a desired >>> overall number of events for each trigger in order to meet the >>> physics goals for the analysis. If we assume a given number of weeks >>> of running, this then gives a rough estimate of the prescale we >>> should apply. >>> I’m also linking my slides from last week >> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/TriggerRates100k_Run23.pdf__;!!KwNVnqRv!FOG0tWzG16D60m3Be4F45v5QXS5FjgGuB_2n21piPyIdiewdfU9SK-OHsopJzmI7MlVV1CCwbYK04xwpCvfhT37TTV5F$) >>> with a few changes, including a rate table on the last slide >>> estimated by Akio, along with some back-of-the-envelope calculations >>> I added for the prescale of these two triggers. >>> Please let us know if you have any questions or input. >>> Thanks, >>> Isaac, Nihar, and Yi _______________________________________________ >>> Star-hp-l mailing list >>> Star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/star-hp-l__;!!KwNVnqRv!FOG0tWzG16D60m3Be4F45v5QXS5FjgGuB_2n21piPyIdiewdfU9SK-OHsopJzmI7MlVV1CCwbYK04xwpCvfhTyPc-Clr$ >> _______________________________________________ >> Star-hp-l mailing list >> Star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/star-hp-l__;!!KwNVnqRv!FOG0tWzG16D60m3Be4F45v5QXS5FjgGuB_2n21piPyIdiewdfU9SK-OHsopJzmI7MlVV1CCwbYK04xwpCvfhTyPc-Clr$ _______________________________________________ Star-hp-l mailing list Star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/star-hp-l__;!!KwNVnqRv!FOG0tWzG16D60m3Be4F45v5QXS5FjgGuB_2n21piPyIdiewdfU9SK-OHsopJzmI7MlVV1CCwbYK04xwpCvfhTyPc-Clr$ |
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[Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23,
Mooney, Isaac, 06/16/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23,
Ma, Rongrong, 06/19/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23,
Nihar Sahoo, 06/19/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23,
Ma, Rongrong, 06/19/2023
- Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23, Carl Gagliardi, 06/19/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23,
Nihar Sahoo, 06/19/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23,
Leszek Kosarzewski, 06/19/2023
- Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23, Ma, Rongrong, 06/19/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23,
Leszek Kosarzewski, 06/19/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23,
Ma, Rongrong, 06/19/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23,
Nihar Sahoo, 06/19/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Dimuon and BHT1 at high luminosity in Run 23,
Ma, Rongrong, 06/19/2023
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