STAR HardProbes PWG

[Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>]

Hello Isaac,

Thank you for this updates.
It looks good now.

I think some other systematic uncertainties we can discuss and work on 
after QM2023 along the paper proposal.

_ Label it "STAR Preliminary" inside fig.
_ Send Drupal link for this new STAR preliminary

But I have a question at high pT 7-9 GeV/c bin.
It looks now central point > 1 in the attached plot, whereas previously 
it was around ~1 (in 
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/QM23Poster_v1.pdf).

Is this due to your the following fix?
> One more comment — I found a small bug in my post-analysis macro
> related to adding the histograms from the 1% centrality ranges, which
> I fixed and which caused the points to jitter a little bit, but the
> physics message is the same, as you can see from the attached figure
> (which is after the fix).


Cheers
Nihar




On 2023-08-28 09:25, Mooney, Isaac wrote:
> Hi Nihar,
>
> You asked about systematic uncertainties in the ESE analysis on
> Thursday. Sorry for the delay in following up. There are indeed some
> uncertainties from the ALICE paper
> (https://inspirehep.net/literature/1384270 [8]) that I haven’t
> addressed yet. Quoting from that paper though:
>
> "Most of the corrections (and uncertainties) cancel out in these
> ratios, allowing for a precise determination of the effect owing to
> the event-shape selection, as discussed in detail below. The
> uncertainties can mostly arise owing to effects that depend on the
> local track density, which are found to be small [39]."
>
>  Table 3 then shows that most of the uncertainties considered are well
> below 1% or even 0.1%. The largest contribution is the
> “Normalization” uncertainty which for the large-q2 events is 1.1%.
> It’s a little hard to tell from the text, but I believe this is
> related to their centrality uncertainty. A centrality uncertainty is
> certainly something that can be implemented after Quark Matter, along
> with similar ones to the rest of the table.
>
> As for the final version of the figure with the comments from the
> meeting (to zoom in on the x and y axes), it is attached below.
> I also addressed the fluctuation in the systematic uncertainty in the
> bin between 3 and 4 GeV by averaging it between the uncertainty values
> of the bin directly to its left and right. Let me know if you think
> that is okay or would prefer a different method.
> One more comment — I found a small bug in my post-analysis macro
> related to adding the histograms from the 1% centrality ranges, which
> I fixed and which caused the points to jitter a little bit, but the
> physics message is the same, as you can see from the attached figure
> (which is after the fix).
>
> Thanks,
> Isaac
>
> > On Aug 26, 2023, at 1:23 PM, Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
> > <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Wei,
> >
> > Thank you for correcting these results and updating these
> > uncertainties.
> > Your preliminary figures look good to me.
> >
> > One suggestion on you preliminary request slides:
> > Please include one slide where you discuss the pp baseline. It is
> > important for posterity.
> >
> > 1_ Fig.1: Put "STAR Preliminary" and "Au+Au collisions" inside the
> > fig. [Same for all Figs]
> > You have not included the systematic uncertainty here. Have
> > you?
> >
> > 2_ Fig.2: increase the text size "Ncoll uncertainty"
> >
> > 3_ Fig.4: Is there any update on "regeneration" and "premodial"
> > contribution as your motivation slide?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Nihar
> >
> > On 2023-08-25 21:21, 张炜 via Star-hp-l wrote:
> > Hi Nihar and all,
> > In the previous results, when I combined Npart and Ncoll of
> > Centrality40-60% and 60-80%, I summed their squares and took the
> > square root, which was wrong, now I take their average. For Figure
> > 2,
> > I now use the version that does not Shift the X-axis.
> > I have updated my slides:
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrupal.star.bnl.gov%2FSTAR%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2FPrelim_Request_0.pdf&data=05%7C01%7Cisaac.mooney%40yale.edu%7C0f3bd6aa93d8474457b308dba6592058%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638286674622802061%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=We%2BrgqO4clcvO3N7bn1ltBjBBsIV%2FDqV7l7hKp6%2B6lo%3D&reserved=0
> > [1]
> > Best,
> > Wei
> > ------------------ Original ------------------
> > From:  "STAR HardProbes PWG"<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
> > Date:  Fri, Aug 25, 2023 09:51 AM
> > To:  "STAR HardProbes PWG"<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
> > Cc:  "张炜"<wzhang AT m.scnu.edu.cn>;
> > Subject:  Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting 10 AM BNL time, 24th Aug
> > 2023
> > Hi Nihar and all，
> > I carefully checked the first data point at 14.6 GeV in Figure 2. I
> > found that I used the wrong values for Npart and Ncoll for this
> > point.
> > I corrected them, and now the point appears normal. Thank you for
> > your
> > very helpful suggestions and comments.
> > The updated version can be accessed through the following link：
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrupal.star.bnl.gov%2FSTAR%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2FPrelim_Request.pdf&data=05%7C01%7Cisaac.mooney%40yale.edu%7C0f3bd6aa93d8474457b308dba6592058%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C638286674622802061%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=z445mJlzV9tx6wVErEcMI2HPbfC35IcrGFWa9lIJm2I%3D&reserved=0
> > [2]
> > Best,
> > Wei
> > ------------------ Original ------------------
> > From:  "STAR HardProbes PWG"<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
> > Date:  Thu, Aug 24, 2023 09:55 AM
> > To:  "STAR HardProbes PWG"<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
> > Cc:  "张炜"<wzhang AT m.scnu.edu.cn>;
> > Subject:  Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting 10 AM BNL time, 24th Aug
> > 2023
> > Hi all,
> > I have uploaded my slides for today's meeting:
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> > [2]
> > Best,
> > Wei
> > ------------------ Original ------------------
> > From:  "STAR HardProbes PWG"<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
> > Date:  Thu, Aug 24, 2023 09:36 AM
> > To:  "STAR HardProbes PWG"<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
> > Cc:  "Te-Chuan Huang"<tchuang AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>;
> > Subject:  Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting 10 AM BNL time, 24th Aug
> > 2023
> > Dear Conveners,
> > I would like to give a short updates my systematic uncertainty as
> > well
> > as the preliminary plots for the J/psi R_AA in isobar.
> > Please find the presentation at:
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> > [3]
> > Cheers,
> > Te-Chuan
> > On Aug 24, 2023, at 8:00 AM, Charles Joseph Naim via Star-hp-l
> > <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
> > Hi Nihar,
> > Thank you for your email. Fully understanding. I will move my talk
> > for the next week. I will circulate my slides today. Thanks a lot,
> > Cheers,
> > Charles
> > Le 24 août 2023 à 6:50 AM, Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
> > a écrit :
> > Hello Charles,
> > Thank you for informing us about your presentation.
> > I find this is your first presentation.
> > We are happy to see your studies on this rc observable.
> > Let see if we will have some time to discuss on your new results
> > today due to a long list of STAR preliminary approval discussion for
> > QM23. I hope you don't mind if we will not get time this week to
> > discuss on your results, Otherwise next hp-pwg meeting we will
> > definitely schedule your presentation first.
> > But we suggest you to circulate your presentation slides if you
> > want.
> > Cheers
> > Nihar
> > On 2023-08-23 17:43, Charles Joseph Naim wrote:
> > Hello Nihar,
> > I would like to present some results about r_c studies in pp
> > collisions (2017).
> > Thanks and best regards,
> > ————————————————————
> > Dr. Charles-Joseph Naïm
> > Research associate
> > Center for Frontiers in Nuclear Science (CFNS)
> > Stony Brook University
> > Dept. of Physics and Astronomy
> > Stony Brook, NY 11794-3800, USA
> > Office C-117
> > Phone: +1 347 273 0887
> > Email: charlesjoseph.naim AT stonybrook.edu
> > Zoom ID: 391 825 8156 (pin: 1643)
> > ————————————————————
> > Le 23 août 2023 à 8:08 AM, Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
> > <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> a écrit :
> > Hello All,
> > We will have our HP-pwg meeting this Thursday (24th Jun) at 10 AM
> > EDT.
> > Let us know please if you want to present and discuss your analysis
> > or any other business.
> > Send your presentation slides a few hrs before the meeting, please.
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