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Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV
- From: "Mooney, Isaac" <isaac.mooney AT yale.edu>
- To: Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
- Cc: STAR HardProbes PWG <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV
- Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 14:35:56 +0000
Hi Yi,
Thanks for your thoughts. Responses:
The caveat still holds — I tried rerunning over the ~3k failed files 3 or 4 times at different points and never got any additional files. I talked to Jerome about it and he kindly said he’d look into it although he hasn’t gotten back to me yet.
I added the q2 definition, slides are now here: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/PreliminaryRequest_forQM23_AuAu2019_FINAL_2040cent_0.pdf
I select the q2 along the lines of ShinIchi’s suggestion, as it’s what has been used in ESE analyses in the past. We can think about it more after QM though.
I prefer to show that last bin because I’m making the claim that the high pT is roughly flat, but (albeit with large uncertainty) this point ticks up a bit. So not showing it would feel like cherrypicking the data I want that helps to make my claim. But
if you think it shouldn’t be shown we can discuss it further.
Thanks,
Isaac
On Aug 30, 2023, at 6:34 AM, Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Isaac,
Thanks a lot for the preliminary request. I have some minor comments/suggestions for your consideration.- p4: Is this Caveat still in 2019?- Could you please add the q2 definition in the slide (what you show in the poster)?- Could you please remind me how you select your q2 now, using a fixed number for all centralities (Rongrong's suggestion) or different numbers in different centrality bins (Shinlchi's suggestion)?- Figure 4: the uncertainty for the last bin is still large, any particular reason for showing it?
Cheers,Yi
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 2:53 PM Mooney, Isaac via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Sorry for any potential confusion this causes, but after a discussion with Helen today, we think it would be better to show the centrality range 20-40%. There’s nothing wrong with the 40-60% per se — it’s just that the q2 resolution worsens due to the lower multiplicity (which was why we decided not to use the isobar data earlier). Including the 40-60% was done to increase statistical precision, but it turns out that the sacrifice is systematic precision. So I’ve instead uploaded https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/PreliminaryRequest_forQM23_AuAu2019_FINAL_2040cent.pdf which has the same preliminary plot request but for 20-40% instead. The trend we saw before is a bit stronger and the systematics on the higher pT are much better without too much worse statistics. I think this is a win-win, but understand that it’s coming late in the game so hopefully this is not too drastic of a change. Additionally, the “Figure 3” plot (slide 12) shows much better separation which will make an easier argument for using the EPD for q2._______________________________________________
Please let me know if there are any further comments.-Isaac
On Aug 28, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Mooney, Isaac via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi all,_______________________________________________
Here is my official preliminary request for the AuAu event shape engineered track spectra comparison with the 2019 200 GeV MB data: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/PreliminaryRequest_forQM23_AuAu2019_FINAL.pdf
Please let me know if there are any further comments.
Thanks,Isaac
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[Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV,
Mooney, Isaac, 08/28/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV,
Mooney, Isaac, 08/28/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV,
Yi Yang, 08/30/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV,
Mooney, Isaac, 08/30/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV,
Yi Yang, 08/30/2023
- Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV, Mooney, Isaac, 08/31/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV,
Yi Yang, 08/30/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV,
Mooney, Isaac, 08/30/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV,
Yi Yang, 08/30/2023
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Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary approval request for ESE track spectra w/ 2019 MB AuAu 200 GeV,
Mooney, Isaac, 08/28/2023
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