STAR HardProbes PWG

[Andrew Tamis <andrew.tamis AT yale.edu>]

Hello Nihar,

I believe that introducing this new observable is very important in the abstract, as it allows access to new physics and will be shown alongside the normal EEC and EEEC, so making a distinction with the charged-energy correlators allows a highlight of what new results are being shown in addition to extending the correlator to three point.

Best,

Andrew

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 11:59 PM Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:

Hello Andrew,

I understand introducing a new definition may create confusion.
I would suggest you to use EEC or two-point energy Correlators;  EEEC or
three-point energy Correlators.
Details how do you weight that can be mentioned in the _expression_ or in
the text.

For terminology in paper draft, I am going through the paper. I will
discuss and comment there.

Thank you
Nihar



On 2024-05-15 01:19, Andrew Tamis wrote:
> Hello Nihar,
>
> Thank you for the helpful comments.  For point 2) I am referring to
> the measurement of charge-energy correlators, which will be new for
> this talk.  I have previously referred to these as "charge-selected"
> or "charge-separated" correlators, such as in the paper, which is
> appropriate for two-point correlators, but "charge-weighted" is
> intended to be more general: as this observable is defined by an
> additional charge weighting in the energy weight definition (i.e.
> EQEQ/pT^2 for two-point and EQEQEQ/pT^3 for three-point).  Let me know
> if this terminology is appropriate.  I think updating this in the
> paper for consistency might be appropriate as well.
>
> Best,
> Andrew
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 7:50 AM Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Andrew,
>>
>> Thank you for your nice abstract.
>> Please find my comment below.
>>
>> 1) please include "For the STAR collaboration"
>> 2)"Charge-Energy" and "charge-weighted ENCs" -> I think you refer to
>>
>> charged particles' energy correlations.
>> If yes, I think something can be improved in the wordings.
>> Otherwise, it sounds like "charge-energy correlation"
>>
>> Besides, It seems like we are going to introduce a different name
>> "Charge-Energy" Correlators comparing with the EEC paper draft.
>> Can we make it consistent? And this "charge" is a technical details
>> (selecting charged particles for correlator) that can be included in
>> the
>> text.
>>
>> Best
>> Nihar
>>
>> On 2024-05-14 03:09, Andrew Tamis via Star-hp-l wrote:
>>> Will upload to drupal, but sending here for now as it seems to be
>>> facing some slow-down
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 5:37 PM Andrew Tamis
>> <andrew.tamis AT yale.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Isaac,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for the comments, I have implemented them,
>>>> please let me know if the point of "close to the massive case"
>> has
>>>> been made clear.  I have split it into two sentences now
>> beginning
>>>> at the end of line 14, as I believe it is a truly important point
>>>> about the unique capabilities of STAR for this measurement.  I
>> have
>>>> saved space by merging the two sentences of paragraph one into
>> one,
>>>> so let me know if this reads well as well.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, I have reworked the title, so feedback would be
>>>> appreciated on that as well.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 2:56 PM Mooney, Isaac via Star-hp-l
>>>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> Here are a few more small comments along with a replication of
>> the
>>>> comments I just gave you offline in your office so there is a
>>>> record.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Isaac
>>>>
>>>> Sentence 1: You did a great job making the abstract general to
>> the
>>>> N-point correlator for any N, but we discussed here removing
>>>> “projected” and moving it to the first sentence of paragraph
>> 2
>>>> because this sentence is valid for projected or non-projected
>>>> correlators whereas you measure specifically the projected one.
>>>> Sentence 2: “approximately separates”
>>>> Sentence 3: “at which hadron groups with different charge
>>>> compositions” or similar
>>>> Paragraph 2, sentence 1: “We will present”
>>>> Sentence 3: “at RHIC energies compared to LHC energies”
>>>> : Please revise to make “close to the massive case” and
>>>> “observation of the non-perturbative effects of …” more
>> clear
>>>> especially for a reader not familiar with EECs.
>>>> Last sentence: “are presented”.
>>>>
>>>> On May 13, 2024, at 02:14, Yi Yang via Star-hp-l
>>>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot. I don't have any further comments.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Yi
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 11:32 PM Andrew Tamis via Star-hp-l
>>>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Yi,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for the suggestion, i have implimented it.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 10:03 PM Yi Yang via Star-hp-l
>>>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for the well-written abstract.
>>>> I only have one minor suggestion for your consideration.
>>>> - at STAR sqrt(s) --> at STAR collision energies
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Yi
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 1:27 AM webmaster--- via Star-hp-l
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