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  • From: tc88qy <tc88qy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
  • To: star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov
  • Cc: "Mooney, Isaac" <isaac.mooney AT yale.edu>
  • Subject: Re: [[Star-hp-l] ] STAR presentation by Sijie Zhang for APS Spring 2025 Global Physi... submitted for review
  • Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:07:42 +0800

Hello Sijie,

Nice abstract, I sign off

Qian Yang

On 2024-10-18 02:49, Mooney, Isaac wrote:
Hi Sijie,

Thanks for considering my comments. Please see one more comment,
below. With this implemented, I sign off.

-Isaac

10. “it is absent in smaller p+A collisions, either because the
medium is not formed, or its temperature or lifetime is too low to
cause jets to lose much energy"

On Oct 17, 2024, at 13:31, SijieZhang <sijiezhang AT mail.sdu.edu.cn>
wrote:

Hi Isaac,

Thank you for your suggestion! I agree that jet+h is interesting and
could provide valuable insights. If the opportunity arises, I’ll
consider exploring it further.

I have uploaded a new version, which can be found here:

https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/APS_abstract_v3.pdf

Thanks,
Sijie

From: "Mooney, Isaac" <isaac.mooney AT yale.edu>
Date: 2024-10-17 04:26:10
To:"star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: [[Star-hp-l] ] STAR presentation by Sijie Zhang for APS
Spring 2025 Global Physi... submitted for review>Hi Sijie,

I’m happy to see the OO data being used, as there was
considerable interest at Hard Probes this year. In particular, I
talked to Aleksas, who was presenting this work:
https://indico.cern.ch/event/1339555/contributions/6040954/ (shame
the pdf isn’t posted). He was arguing actually that jet+h would be
even more interesting than h+jet results in OO. Although this
question isn’t necessarily related to the abstract, have you
thought about looking into this as well, e.g. for Quark Matter?

As for comments on your nice abstract, please see below.

Title: “...jet yield measurements in…"

10. Here I would talk a bit more about the effect that decreasing
system size is expected to have on the medium (e.g. smaller, colder,
etc.) so it’s clear to a reader that it wasn’t an experimental
surprise that we don’t see anything in small systems (in the hard
sector).

12.
“provide”
“pinpoint the critical system size for the onset of jet
quenching” should be reworded. A given system (OO) cannot pinpoint
the onset of jet quenching — it would require at least two. Also,
the word “critical" is a bit misleading here, as it might evoke
critical behavior of the medium in the reader’s mind, whereas the
absence of jet quenching in a system can tell us at most that the
medium is small/cold/fleeting enough not to modify jets within
precision, or that the effect it has is small compared to cold
nuclear matter effects, which is a different question than
existence/non-existence. I would suggest simply: “...200 GeV
bridge the gap between these small and large systems.” since your
previous and last sentence already make your case anyway.

14. “first measurement of jet quenching” is skipping a step.
Semi-inclusive / inclusive jet yields and their ratio is the
measurement; jet quenching is the (possible) physical cause of the
(potential) yield modifications.

18. I understand why you wrote this, but I would remove the last
clause “and are complementary…”. Of course it will be great to
see OO results at LHC energies as well, and compare to the extent
possible. However, I think your abstract should highlight that these
data are unique in the world for the near future, and yours would be
the first measurement of its kind to be done in OO anywhere. When
the LHC has taken OO data in 2025, they can write in their abstracts
that they are complementary to existing measurements at RHIC.

General: "semi-inclusive hadron+jet" and “event mixing
technique” are fairly compact jargon. If you have space, I would
recommend unspooling these a bit, e.g. “jets recoiling from
high-momentum hadron triggers” for the first one.

Thanks,
Isaac

On Oct 13, 2024, at 11:15, webmaster AT star.bnl.gov wrote:

Dear Star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,

Sijie Zhang (sijiezhang AT mail.sdu.edu.cn) has submitted a material
for a
review, please have a look:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/69372

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