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  • From: Walter Lampl <Walter.Lampl AT cern.ch>
  • To: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: "usatlas-hllhc-computing-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-computing-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-computing-l] US ATLAS - CSI workshop, BNL, July 25-27
  • Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:01:15 +0000

Hi Torre,

where do we present our basic framework, like the Gaudi component model and
the athena MT scheduler? I this part of your talk or does this come only on
Thursday in Scott’s talk? Maybe a 10-15 minutes talk on this topic on
Wednesday would make sense.

- Walter



> On Jul 17, 2018, at 9:59, Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Some updates on the agenda...
> https://indico.cern.ch/event/742090/
>
> We will have short welcoming talks from CSI (Deputy Director Frank
> Alexander) and US ATLAS (US ATLAS Operations Manager Srini Rajagopalan)
> giving the motivations and background for the workshop. Frank will then get
> the workshop started with an introduction to CSI.
>
> We then have a series of talks and discussion periods that introduce the
> computing and software domains of ATLAS, and the challenges they present
> for adapting to new architectures and the HL-LHC. Guidance on the talks is
> that they should open with an overview of the domain for a non-specialist
> audience, and then in the latter part of the talk drill down to the status
> and potential for reengineering (MT, GPU utilization, applying ML, …).
> Purpose of the talks is to share understanding of the software, physics
> objectives, characteristics of existing apps, performance analysis,
> exascale porting potential.
>
> Then we'll hear the perspectives of an experienced ATLAS physicist Peter
> Loch, bringing an analysis user perspective and a knowledge of the
> challenges presented by prospective porting targets like fast simulation;
> and ATLAS physicist Amir Farbin with extensive experience in ML and GPU
> utilization who will bring us interesting and very relevant ideas and
> proposals.
>
> We then have a series of CSI software and technology talks and surrounding
> discussion, being organized by Nick D'Imperio of CSI. He's arranging a
> series of talks with plenty of discussion time.
>
> Eric has suggested that this CSI block should come earlier, on the first
> day, thoughts on that? My thinking was that with the ATLAS talks first, the
> CSI material could be tuned to the needs and opportunities emerging from
> the ATLAS talks.
>
> Comments appreciated!
>
> Torre
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:17 AM Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I've fleshed out the agenda for the workshop
> https://indico.cern.ch/event/742090/
> following the draft in the googledoc.
> Comments and further content are welcome
> Torre
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 2:26 PM Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Welcome to the US ATLAS HL-LHC mailing list. The first thing we'll use it
> for is planning the BNL CSI workshop July 25-27 2018. Please invite people
> to join the list, it's open.
>
> Our planning googledoc for the workshop is here… (editing is on)
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DQM-8h7eFSyvGIh23aFphNv5V35DnSZYv4NjSfiL9H0/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I've added in the doc a strawman draft agenda based on our discussions,
> please comment here or in the document:
>
> • Wed: the landscape, the problems, discussions on potential help and
> collaboration
> • As discussed on June 14, a series of talks on specific
> aspects of ATLAS software: describing the software domain, describing the
> status and potential for reengineering (MT, GPU utilization, applying ML,
> …), plus generous discussion time. Share understanding of the codes,
> physics objectives, characteristics of existing apps, performance analysis,
> porting potential
> • Wed am 9-1
> • CSI intro 25+10’
> • ATLAS computing challenges towards HL-LHC - Torre
> Wenaus 25+10’
> • Tracking software - Ed Moyse, Paolo Calafiura
> 30+30’
> • Calorimeter software - Walter Lampl 30+30’
> • Wed pm 2-6
> • Simulation software (fast and full) - Heather Gray
> 40+40’
> • I/O and persistency software - David Malon 30+30’
> • Workflow and dataflow software & issues - Alexei
> Klimentov, Kaushik De, Torre Wenaus 40’+40’
> • (Event generation?)
> • Thu: zeroing in on specific proposals, activities and
> collaborations we can pursue. Perspectives on the problems
> • Thu am 9-12:30
> • Core software, perspectives on reengineering -
> Scott Snyder, Vakho Tsulaia 30+30’
> • Perspectives of a user and analyst - Peter Loch
> 30+30’
> • Proposals - Amir Farbin 30’+30’
> • Thu lunch - bring in sandwiches for hackathon lunch
> • Thu pm 2-6
> • CSI software & technology talks, discussion, demo,
> hacking
> • trying out a few new tools, look at
> programming models
> • Discussion on participation in the GPU hackathon at
> BNL in Sep 60’
> • First hackathon session
> • Fri: hands-on hackathon & brainstorming
> • ATLAS software build & instrumentation hackathon
> • Software reengineering prospects brainstorm
> • what software components and workflows are most
> amenable to attack for exascale
> • potential for the codes on different architectures,
> look for porting problems to attack
> • looking at the codes with rewrite potential in
> mind, develop strategies for porting, if we can do sufficient homework
> beforehand.
> • Next steps, what to pursue and with what priorities
>
>
> Torre
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