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Hi John,
I have my slides revised and uploaded.

Regards,
Hao

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Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] examples for Risk Scrubbing



                Uploaded mine, which includes a new risk of shipping  loss 
and damages.

                Hong.
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Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] examples for Risk Scrubbing


Hi Andy,

                I give some comments/suggestions below.

                                John

p. 3 - summary not so clear - you mean it could
require more debugging, or could lead to extra
iteration?  (ie. fact that it requires more debugging
does not necessarily mean an extra iteration needed,
but the current wording suggests so)

- can you make Comment more quantitative?
The Ph. 1 costs are different, so it is not clear
how you get your cost numbers just using Ph. 1

p. 4 and p. 5 - similar remark about making Comment
more quantitative

p. 5 - consider making expiration date later? eg. end of 2024?

p. 7 - 10 - need Comment, explaining numbers




On 6/19/19 2:11 PM, Andy Haas wrote:
Oh, OK. Done.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 2:10 PM John Parsons 
<parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu<mailto:parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>> wrote:


You need to put them on this Friday's agenda,
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_6285_&d=DwICaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=x0xaO_qMUyneVN0cgclPhWoY7SnXBsM4pwUjc58auIc&s=DF8ddhVJDCMbN_9V8f0tyHis6kbH5SOAHwhXGo4fjH0&e=
 .

On 6/19/19 2:06 PM, Andy Haas wrote:
Yes, I uploaded a new version of mine this morning.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 2:05 PM John Parsons 
<parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu<mailto:parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>> wrote:


Hi all,

           I have updated my risk scrubbing slides and uploaded
them to Friday's agenda page at 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_6285_&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=8e49M4AKp0tmtedPzbRIcZ_HMQ1WVdK1AR3hnU6E2Zg&s=u-Sg8uTZqQJUdvvaSzZ96rwkrDwoIOUtuayRez2tT-Y&e=
 .
           Andy/Hao/Hong, how are you coming with yours?  They
need to be uploaded today.
           Regards,
                   John

On 6/19/19 9:43 AM, John Parsons wrote:

Very good, I will try take a look if I can find time.
I will update mine today and move them there also.
Everyone else should do the same, getting them to
Friday's agenda page by the end of today at the
latest.

A few summaries from our discussions yesterday:

- in addition to addressing particular suggestions
from yesterday, everyone should check the expiration
dates and comments fields.
        I suggest to put the expiration dates
about 3 months after the corresponding task or milestone
(eg. a review) in the latest version of the Scrubbing Report
(which I posted to Friday's agenda).
        Edit the comments field to provide some
traceability of the numbers, in particular the cost
range and schedule range.

- Hong should add a "Shipping loss" risk, similar to what
Tim has added for the other ASICs.

- Andy, I think you should do the same for shipping
the sRTMs to CERN

        Regards,
            John

On 6/19/19 9:20 AM, Tim Andeen wrote:
Hi John,

I updated my slides from yesterday's discussion and posted them to the
Friday agenda:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_6285_contributions_29044_attachments_23339_33760_L3-2DLArFEE-2D6.4.1-5FRiskScrubbing-5Fv2.pdf&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=8e49M4AKp0tmtedPzbRIcZ_HMQ1WVdK1AR3hnU6E2Zg&s=3nHf2ivlhZ6NWEUqEzoPTr8cMgCNtrgXhvSUbFzmDZk&e=


I'm alone there, was I supposed to wait? I added details in the
comments sections, fixed typos and made corrections following your
suggestions, and added a shipping risk.

Best, Tim

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:45 PM John Parsons
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<mailto:parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu><mailto:parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu%3e>> 
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       Hi all,

                A reminder that our Risk Scrubbing will take place
       on Fri. June 21 beginning at 9 am NY time.  Gustaaf created
       an indico page at 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_6285_&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=8e49M4AKp0tmtedPzbRIcZ_HMQ1WVdK1AR3hnU6E2Zg&s=u-Sg8uTZqQJUdvvaSzZ96rwkrDwoIOUtuayRez2tT-Y&e=
 .  I
       modified it to add the DOE L3s; I don't know if there will
       be time to go through both NSF and DOE, but as we discussed
       we should prepare everything now so that we can ensure things
       are coherent across both NSF and DOE.

                Everyone should prepare their slides before our regular
       meeting next Tuesday, and post your slides to that agenda page
       (which is at 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_6292_&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=8e49M4AKp0tmtedPzbRIcZ_HMQ1WVdK1AR3hnU6E2Zg&s=59iB-k2Qhn19eQJebZeN11u0i5DZwWz2CLGAxSZIOUA&e=
 ).  We will go
       over the slides together on Tuesday, after which we will
       provide them to the PMO to get some feedback even before next
       Friday's scrubbing meeting.

                Examples from the recent muon scrubbing are available
       at 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.bnl.gov_event_6282_&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=8e49M4AKp0tmtedPzbRIcZ_HMQ1WVdK1AR3hnU6E2Zg&s=RVY5vIxmGqonOTiIlmyzc__B4o2nLqUf7xAGGwxueT4&e=
 .  I suggest people take
       a quick look through the slides to get ideas for preparing
       their own slides.
                Regards,
                        John
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