EIC/BNL Computing discussion

[Jerome LAURET <jeromel AT bnl.gov>]

        Relying on a hosting service and moving to ... another hosting
service with different technology solution, how easier they seem, will
not change the underlying issue: dependencies in what your provider
imposes / decides.

        There is expertise at the SDCC for Drupal. Upgrades would not
be on a "casual admin/user" but experts. it is not that the EIC UG
instance have used that many modules (and I am not aware of custom
modules).

        Continuing the path of hosting DOE experiment's information in
the wild is not good in my opinion. There will be a lack of integration
with community standards and wide move across all DOE agencies and
facilities (such as Federated ID) and soon enough, a divergence from
DOE requirements.

        Regards,


On 2021-06-09 15:32, Maxim Potekhin via Eic-bnl-comp-l wrote:
> Hello Jerome,
>
> This was discussed in a long thread with Thomas and Elke and recently at
> the EICUG Steering Committee as well as mentioned in the software group
> discussions.
>
> The issue is this:
>
> a) there are mandated PHP version bumps required by the hosting service 
> - the BlueHost
> This trigger (or will trigger) Drupal version migration
>
> b) there is compatibility matrix of PHP vis a vis Drupal itself and the 
> installed modules
>
> c) previously Drupal upgrades were direct (and I've done one or two), 
> and now with version 8
> to be required within the next few months this is no longer transparent. 
> Then there will be
> version 9 of course.
>
> These migrations are now quite involved and require level of expertise 
> way above
> casual admin/user.
>
> Instead of being subject to the continued tech debt/liability of keeping 
> up with the version
> creep and complex upgrades it was proposed to shift to a platform which 
> is a lot simpler
> to maintain.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Maxim
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/9/21 2:51 PM, Jerome LAURET via Eic-bnl-comp-l wrote:
> > From the bi-weekly EIC news, I read
> >
> > > The EICUG is facing increasing issues with maintaining their Drupal 
> > > based web site (eicug.org). The
> > > agreed plan is to drop Drupal and redesign the web site based on 
> > > possibly Jekyll in conjunction with
> > > github. Main concern is to maintain the links to important EICUG 
> > > documents that are referenced
> > > extensively (White Paper, Yellow Report etc).
> >
> > Where was that discussed exactly and what kind of "increasing issues"
> > did the EIC faced? I have not seen anything discussed in the standard
> > mailing lists.
>
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