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  • From: Maxim Potekhin <potekhin AT bnl.gov>
  • To: Dmitry Arkhipkin <arkhipkin AT bnl.gov>
  • Cc: phys-npps-members-l AT lists.bnl.gov
  • Subject: Re: [Phys-npps-members-l] Fwd: email server certificate renewed
  • Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 09:42:01 -0400

Hi Dmitry,

Nested folders never seemed like a good idea. Instead, just one-level
folders improve the efficacy of searches (in Thunderbird) quite dramatically.

Maxim


On 10/21/21 9:37 AM, Dmitry Arkhipkin wrote:
Hi Maxim,

Gmail has tags, which serve as a top-level folder if you like. Say, I have "Torre" and "Jerome" tag folders in Gmail ;) I tried using deeply nested subfolders in Thunderbird, but that quickly becomes unmanageable, and I have long abandoned that idea. So, "search, don't sort" definitely works better for me.

Regarding SSH tunnels and VPN - in the past month there were two temporary issues with SSH tunnels (on the RCF side), and one VPN issue (on ITD side). In comparison, I had two temporary issues with Gmail since 2005(!). Also, I can use gmail on my laptop _and_ on my phone with no extra steps. Convenient.

Even better if you consider user authentication for BNL apps/interfaces - it is extremely easy to use Gmail authn + local authz in apps, and most users are already used to seeing the "authenticate with Google account" button. Solves the issue of "should I use ITD auth or RCF auth or third-party auth" completely for our zoo of apps. Single sign-on with zero effort right out of the box.

-Dmitry

On 2021-10-21 09:16, Maxim Potekhin wrote:
Hi Dmitry,

The Roundcube web client is less than perfect for sure. I prefer
Thunderbird which
is solid and has decent search capabilities.

And so I'm using SSH tunnels on both Ubuntu and Windows machines
which I do not find cumbersome, not even a little bit.

It's easy to define an alias and then type it a short command, it's
all automatic.

I never liked Gmail e.g. lack of normal folders, and I've heard same
from others.

Maxim


On 10/21/21 9:06 AM, Dmitry Arkhipkin wrote:
Looks like yet another reason to use Gmail instead of SDCC-hosted email service, IMHO. My other reasons: Roundcube web interface is lacking proper email search (hangs on "body" search) and has a buggy android app, while thunderbird (or another local mail client) requires an SSH tunnel or VPN to work - very cumbersome.

-Dmitry

On 2021-10-21 08:55, Maxim Potekhin via Phys-npps-members-l wrote:
Hello,

Since this may be important I took the liberty of forwarding this
e-mail from Chris.

Maxim

-------- Forwarded Message --------

         SUBJECT:
         email server certificate renewed

         DATE:
         Wed, 20 Oct 2021 23:48:29 -0400

         FROM:
         pinkenburg <pinkenburg AT bnl.gov>

         REPLY-TO:
         PHENIX Current Participants <phenix-p-l AT lists.bnl.gov>

         TO:
         PHENIX Current Participants <phenix-p-l AT lists.bnl.gov>,
sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov <sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov>

Hi folks,

sdcc renewed the mail server certificate today - which basically means
clients like thunderbird stopped receiving mail without notice. Upon
restart or if you ask for new messages you get prompted about a new
certificate (claiming it's not valid), make an exception for it and
you should be back in business.

Chris

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