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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NP AI/ML slides for mini-retreat tomorrow
- From: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
- To: "Huang, Jin" <jhuang AT bnl.gov>
- Cc: NPPS leadership team <Phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "Aschenauer, Elke" <elke AT bnl.gov>, Michael Begel <michael.begel AT cern.ch>
- Subject: Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NP AI/ML slides for mini-retreat tomorrow
- Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 05:55:09 -0500
Hi Torre
Thanks for sharing the slides. Few comments just for your consideration:
- On slide 3:
it might be useful to point out one challenge of NP AI application is to understand its systematic bias and unexpected failure modes, as many of our measurements are systematic uncertainty dominated. I think this is reflected on slide 8- On slide 3: “Engaging all talents”:
it might be useful to bring up a constructive relationship and expertise complementarity with CSI. I did enjoy and benefited from working with CSI- Slide 3: “See agenda of the EIC UG Summer 2021 https://indico.bnl.gov/event/11463/timetable/#20210805.detailed”:
Might be useful to also link to our last AI4EIC workshop: https://indico.bnl.gov/event/10699/- Slide 4: “MC simulations of detector responses using GANs”:
It would be useful to emphasize the novel AI approach to bridge simulation and data in the LDRD 21-029 as lead by Brett, which has two levels of application in sPHENIX both in detector simulation and in jet-medium simulation (though scheduled to later part of that LDRD)- Slide 4: “we could also have an opportunity for outreach - data repository may attract external teams (TrackML “like”)”:
In recent discussion at HSF reco working group, we considered possibility to publish a follow up to TrackML data with calorimeter or tracking+calo data. With some effort investment, this dataset could come from sPHENIX or EIC simulations to foster ML particle flow development.- Slide 12:
Slide 13: just to note there is a NP (sPHENIX) component tooSlide 13: Also LDRD 21-023 mentioned in the last slide is also IO+CSI+NPSlide 18: Last bullet I would also encourage to recognize sPHENIX as a useful testing ground enroute to EIC, as reflected by e.g. the last DOE award to LANL+MIT.Slide 20: I am not sure it is intended to be shown, but since then ECCE has used a specialized DNN for electron and muon IDs based on full simulation and reconstructions, as used in this week’s DPAP homework response.
- It is thrilling to be quoted in this context 😊
- Let me rephrase the last part of the bullet 1.2: “After completing the primary goal of the adoption of FELIX-style streaming DAQ by the EIC community, LDRD 19-028 has relocated 50% of the resources to the AI compression development”
Hope these are useful, and enjoy the retreat ~
Cheers
Jin
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From: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
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Subject: NP AI/ML slides for mini-retreat tomorrow
Hi all,
Jamie and Eric have organized a mini-retreat on NP computing tomorrow, unfortunately with a rather short invite list.
Jerome and I were asked to give a presentation on AI/ML. Our slides are here; my slides begin on #8. I'd really appreciate any comments you have.
The meeting begins at 1pm tomorrow. Sorry for the late request.
Torre
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[Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NP AI/ML slides for mini-retreat tomorrow,
Torre Wenaus, 01/20/2022
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NP AI/ML slides for mini-retreat tomorrow,
Huang, Jin, 01/20/2022
- Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NP AI/ML slides for mini-retreat tomorrow, Torre Wenaus, 01/21/2022
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NP AI/ML slides for mini-retreat tomorrow,
Huang, Jin, 01/20/2022
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