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  • From: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
  • To: NPPS leadership team <Phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] Fwd: RE: DOE DUNE S&C Review report
  • Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 08:12:11 -0700

A good time to hire a CERN based person

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From: "Bishai, Mary" <mbishai AT bnl.gov>
Date: Jul 21, 2023 at 11:05:01
Subject: RE: DOE DUNE S&C Review report
To: "Denisov, Dmitri" <denisovd AT bnl.gov>, "Kettell, Steven" <kettell AT bnl.gov>, "Ma, Hong" <hma AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>, "Lancon, Eric" <elancon AT bnl.gov>, "Benjamin, Douglas" <dbenjamin AT bnl.gov>, "Viren, Brett" <bviren AT bnl.gov>, "Qian, Xin" <xqian AT bnl.gov>, "Yu, Haiwang" <hyu AT bnl.gov>, "Kettell, Steven" <kettell AT bnl.gov>


It is my assessment that the review outcome was mostly what was hoped for - an acknowledgement that DUNE had a good grasp on a viable DUNE computing model with a core team that was competent but clearly not sufficient to the task and recommendation to proceed towards developing the management plan and organization, bringing more personnel on board and support for the R&D we need in the areas we had identified that badly needed extra work ...i.e. the committee mostly indicated we are would be ready to start the S&C operations program if we get the management and operations plan in place. We have 6 months to do this and this what DOE wanted to hear.

My big concerns after the bad practice review was that we would go into this review and come out with a lot of questions about whether the S&C model was viable and not having convinced them we are ready to start organizing the full blown operations program and we seem to avoided that.  It was clear going into the review that we had a weak point with not enough international involvement in personnel and that is reflected in the recommendations. We will be far more successful with DOE if we can use our expertise and connections not just to get BNL more involved but to also help us engage more international experts in S&C efforts. Fermilab leadership is moving to assert more control and right now is practically trying to dictate the DUNE operations so we need to work to make sure this is a distributed multi-national effort and multi-lab effort (in the US). There is plenty of work for FNAL to do and a lot of good people there that we need.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Denisov, Dmitri <denisovd AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 5:56 AM
To: Kettell, Steven <kettell AT bnl.gov>; Ma, Hong <hma AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>; Lancon, Eric <elancon AT bnl.gov>; Benjamin, Douglas <dbenjamin AT bnl.gov>; Viren, Brett <bviren AT bnl.gov>; Qian, Xin <xqian AT bnl.gov>; Yu, Haiwang <hyu AT bnl.gov>; Kettell, Steven <kettell AT bnl.gov>; Bishai, Mary <mbishai AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: DOE DUNE S&C Review report

Steve,

Thank you for the document. Over it sounds as positive evaluation of DUNE computing and plans, while recommends further and more specific development.

Do you have any specific comments you want to share with us?

Thanks, Dmitri.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Kettell <kettell AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2023 4:25 PM
To: Denisov, Dmitri <denisovd AT bnl.gov>; Ma, Hong <hma AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>; Lancon, Eric <elancon AT bnl.gov>; Benjamin, Douglas <dbenjamin AT bnl.gov>; Viren, Brett <bviren AT bnl.gov>; Qian, Xin <xqian AT bnl.gov>; Yu, Haiwang <hyu AT bnl.gov>; Kettell, Steven <kettell AT bnl.gov>; Bishai, Mary <mbishai AT bnl.gov>
Subject: DOE DUNE S&C Review report

Hi Dmitri and Hong,

  Attached is the report from the DOE S&C review at FNAL last week.

Thanks,

Steve

Steve Kettell (BNL Physics Department; 631-344-5323) kettell AT bnl.gov s_kettell AT verizon.net


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