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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Stainless steel for prototype?
- From: EdwardOBrien <eobrien AT bnl.gov>
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- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Stainless steel for prototype?
- Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 19:21:30 -0400
John,
Your analysis seems quite reasonable. Then you're proposing
that we use standard steel for the performance prototypes
for both the Inner and Outer. The mechanical or engineering
prototypes are to be made of the actual material we intend to
use. Do you think that it is worthwhile adding a GEANT4
performance study of a 310 stainless vs standard steel
calorimeter to our list of detector simulations. I am sure
that a committee will ask.
Ed
On 6/19/2015 11:41 AM, John Haggerty wrote:
The question of whether we need to make the IHCAL performance prototype
out of stainless steel came up at yesterday's meeting again. It's
harder to work with mechanically, and more expensive, and I don't think
there will be any discernible difference, and here's my analysis of that
question. Of course, I could be wrong, so more eyes on the question
would be good.
The non-magnetic stainless steel we used in the PHENIX absorber on the
central magnet came with an assay that had these components:
Z A rho X %
C 6 12.011 2.266 42.698 0.050
Mn 25 54.938 7.473 14.640 0.960
P 15 30.974 1.820 21.205 0.025
S 16 32.060 2.086 19.493 0.000
Si 14 28.086 2.329 21.823 0.560
Ni 28 58.700 8.907 12.679 19.380
Cr 24 51.996 7.194 14.944 24.450
Mo 42 95.940 10.222 9.801 0.250
Co 27 58.993 8.800 13.631 0.150
Cu 29 63.546 8.933 12.862 0.280
N 7 14.007 0.001 37.989 0.055
Fe 26 55.847 7.873 13.839 53.840
7.874 13.873
and if you cruise the web, you'll see that's typical for "310 stainless
steel." (The above table was from when we got it and I calculated the
radiation length of the mixture for fun; if I did the weighting right,
the radiation length of the SS310, the 13.873 g/cm^2, is pretty close to
elemental Fe, which is >99.5% of a carbon steel like 1006 which we'll
use in the flux return; the density is pretty much the same, too.) It's
not mysterious, the other big components, Ni and Cr, surround Fe on the
periodic table, and have quite similar properties.
I thought I better check a little further, so I used my super-idealized
model of the IHCAL based on a GEANT example to look at the difference; I
made a nominal 1 interaction length calorimeter out of 4 Fe plates
(that's the "4 crossing") 42 mm thick (the interaction length of Fe is
167.7 mm), and shot some 10GeV pi+'s at it and used matScan to measure
the interaction length.
The calorimeter is 4 layers of: [ 42mm of G4_Fe + 7mm of G4_POLYSTYRENE ]
mean Energy in Absorber : 1.74625 GeV +- 1.86963 GeV
mean Energy in Gap : 56.5529 MeV +- 61.824 MeV
mean trackLength in Absorber : 1.1057 m +- 1.19615 m
mean trackLength in Gap : 19.1849 cm +- 19.3933 cm
and the matScan agrees with my arithmetic:
/control/matScan/singleMeasure 0 0
Theta(deg) Phi(deg) Length(mm) x0 lambda0
0 0 1017.6 9.62684 1.03024
The material G4_STAINLESS-STEEL packaged with GEANT isn't 310, it's
about 74% Fe, so we should cook up the material correctly, but just to
get a quick idea, here are the statistics from running 10 GeV pions
through that, and the matScan:
The calorimeter is 4 layers of: [ 42mm of G4_STAINLESS-STEEL + 7mm of
G4_POLYSTYRENE ]
mean Energy in Absorber : 1.7336 GeV +- 1.76738 GeV
mean Energy in Gap : 59.5918 MeV +- 65.2185 MeV
mean trackLength in Absorber : 1.03557 m +- 1.08142 m
mean trackLength in Gap : 18.3985 cm +- 18.4141 cm
Theta(deg) Phi(deg) Length(mm) x0 lambda0
0 0 1017.6 9.73369 1.04876
So I think it's ok to make the prototype out of pretty much any steel as
far as its properties as an absorber, as far as I can see. Probably not
so true for the mechanical prototype, where we may have to learn to deal
with a material that is rather difficult to work with.
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[Sphenix-hcal-l] Stainless steel for prototype?,
John Haggerty, 06/19/2015
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Stainless steel for prototype?,
EdwardOBrien, 06/19/2015
- Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Stainless steel for prototype?, John Lajoie, 06/22/2015
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Stainless steel for prototype?,
EdwardOBrien, 06/19/2015
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