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- From: Megan Connors <meganEconnors AT gmail.com>
- To: John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov>
- Cc: "sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tile thickness issue
- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:14:56 -0500
Hi John, all,
Attached are two plots summarizing the current status of the thickness measurements. For the inner tiles 69 out of 80 tiles have been measured. I've only seen measurements for 20 of the outer tiles so far. Thickness on the inner tiles is measured at 9 points and the outer at 13 spots as illustrated in the attached images. The plots show the Max thickness measured on each tile in red and the average thickness of each tile in blue. On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 11:12 AM, John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov> wrote:
As I said, I'll summarize my e-conversation with Edward about the tile
thickness. I forgot that to make these tiles, they had to make some
changes to their extruder in order to make wide enough tiles.
> picture gets a bit cleaner with UNIPLAST. In summary - this is my fault, I was too certain that 2013 production is a good predictor for what we’ll get in 2015. Ignored the fact that UNIPLAST essentially crossed the line - they switched from 19cm wide band extrusion to 25cm wide extrusion. Lot of hardware modifications and no other consumers except us.
> - large tiles are relatively uniform but with excess thickness of ~0.4mm. 0.2 mm are due to coating (I expected 0.1mm or 0.05mm per layer), 0.2mm is due to excess thickness at the edges (temperature regime which is undercompensated by the slit shape);
> - small tiles are from tune-up cycles - wide bands but small loads;
> - not much care of wrap quality on short tiles (large one were made after my visit - wrap quality was probably improved but sill not strictly enforced.
>
> There is no problem to bring tiles to the spec (we need to decide if we want 7mm or 7.2mm (coated) thickness.
> We will also need to decide on wrapping materials - they will set the final tile thickness.
> PS. If any measurements on tiles are still going - please add the corner to corner dimensions at the inner and at the outer edges of the tile (cylinder radii) in finished state.
So I would say the lesson is that we probably have to have someone at
Uniplast at least periodically during fabrication who can assess the
production before we ship them to BNL or wherever we decide to send them
first. We also need to finalize the wrapping, Edward is still
interested in Tedlar, although I think we'll have to assess the
thickness that we'll end up with before we buy a lot of it.
There will be more on measurements later today, I think, from Kenny by
way of Abhisek and Megan that will help us understand how to proceed.
--
John Haggerty
email: haggerty AT bnl.gov
cell: 631 741 3358
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[Sphenix-hcal-l] Tile thickness issue,
John Haggerty, 01/06/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tile thickness issue,
Megan Connors, 01/06/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tile thickness issue,
Edward Kistenev, 01/06/2016
- Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tile thickness issue, Megan Connors, 01/06/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tile thickness issue,
Edward Kistenev, 01/06/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tile thickness issue,
EdwardOBrien, 01/06/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tile thickness issue,
Edward Kistenev, 01/06/2016
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Rusty Towell, 01/06/2016
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Edward Kistenev, 01/06/2016
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Megan Connors, 01/06/2016
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