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- From: John Lajoie <lajoie AT iastate.edu>
- To: Edward Kistenev <kistenev AT bnl.gov>, EdwardOBrien <eobrien AT bnl.gov>
- Cc: Megan Connors <megan.connors AT yale.edu>, sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tiles
- Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:40:54 -0600
Hi Edward, Ed: We talked about this a bit in the HCAL meeting yesterday after Ron's presentation. I think this is something that would be very good for the Colorado group to try to duplicate. At least in my email your Fig. 3 (the bulk light stopper) did not come through. Would it be possible to get a tile modified with the bulk light stopper sent to Colorado for testing? It would be very nice to see that it eliminates the "hot spot" in Ron's scans as well. Once that is verified I suppose we can look at another iteration of the SiPM holder to incorporate this. Regards, John On 1/13/2016 12:24 PM, Edward Kistenev
wrote:
Certainly.
There are 4 pictures attached.
Fig.1. Showing the fiber exit similar to one in
existing tiles (except the fact that fibers in this picture are
centered with respect to the depth of 3.5mm (today they are
shifted towards one side - took time to learn how to implement a
more complicated groove shape - design from Uniplast,
implementation in the picture local at UTFSM). Plastic is not
coated. Fibers need polishing, if they are glued flat with an
edge of the tile then coating around fiber exit will be removed
by polishing procedure.
SiPM is 3x3 mm2 and is now facing open tile in the
square region of the tile edge of a slightly bigger size around
fibers. Light generated inside of plastic (420nm) which was
supposed to be either reemitted in the fiber or simply lost is
now exiting the tile and free to reach the SiPM. Attenuation
length for the light of ~420nm if few cm so the light collection
from the semicircle of ~that radius looks dramatically enhanced
(see second picture copied from Ron’s presentation of
yesterday).
Fig. 2 Tile response to LED point by point exposure.
Dramatic hot spot around fiber exits. One reason is what
explained above (can be alleviated by insertion of a bulk light
blend between tile and SiPM), second - cladding light. In ECal
epoxy is black so it kills cladding light. In HCal plastic is
transparent, epoxy is optically transparent too. Cladding light
either conserved in the cladding (not much because we use single
clad fibers) or travels along the fiber. Same fate as with the
bulk light. Blend will help but only partially;
Fig. 3 The solution proposed and tested at UTFSM.
Bulk light stopper made of black plastic is glued into machined
recess in the plastic. It has fixed positioning tightly spaced
holes for fiber exiting. Fibers are glued into the spacer.
Spacer needs to be designed as one part of the SiPM holder,
second half must be attachable without any screws if we do not
want to start building vacuum cleaners to extract these screws
fro the gaps;
Fig. 4 Effect of the bulk light stopper on the hot
spot. Tile response to LED (420nm) exposure in two
configurations - without and with light stopper (everyone in
HCal seen this picture) as function of the distance between exit
point and excitation point (narrow band around fiber excluded -
we are doing some work to reduce fiber related non uniformity
too but it require cosmic data with good position resolution -
probably at a later date). Light stopper entirely solves the hot
spot problem.
Now few words about “tail generator” comment. The
hot area is ~6cm in diameter or +-3cm from fiber exit. Our
tiles in HInner end at a depth in calorimeter just around
hadronic shower maximum. They are only 10cm wide. X3 non
uniformity introduced by selectively collecting a lot of stray
light around shower max (10% of tile area are affected) can’t be
ignored now when we understand why it is happening.
Edward
Edward Kistenev, PhD
PHENIX Physicist
On Jan 13, 2016, at 2:29 PM, EdwardOBrien <eobrien AT bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi Edward,
Could you provide more detail about this comment in your e-mail? I don't understand your point. Thanks. Ed On 1/12/2016 1:35 PM, Edward Kistenev wrote: Finally - I am very worried by discussion about what is below the SiPM _______________________________________________ Sphenix-hcal-l mailing list Sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/sphenix-hcal-l --
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[Sphenix-hcal-l] Tiles,
Edward Kistenev, 01/12/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tiles,
EdwardOBrien, 01/13/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tiles,
Edward Kistenev, 01/13/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tiles,
John Lajoie, 01/13/2016
- Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tiles, Edward Kistenev, 01/13/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tiles,
John Lajoie, 01/13/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tiles,
Edward Kistenev, 01/13/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Tiles,
EdwardOBrien, 01/13/2016
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