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- From: John Lajoie <lajoie AT iastate.edu>
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- Subject: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Fwd: Re: inner HCAL action items
- Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:38:45 -0500
Dear Chris (copying your email to the lists): That's fantastic - thanks for taking the lead on this. I
think we can get people to ramp up their time looking at
simulations this coming week. Regards,
John Lajoie -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: inner HCAL action items Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 11:48:38 -0400 From: pinkenburg <pinkenburg AT bnl.gov> To: John Lajoie <lajoie AT iastate.edu>, Dennis V. Perepelitsa <dvp AT bnl.gov>, Rosi Reed <rosijreed AT gmail.com>, Sasha Lebedev <LEBEDEV AT iastate.edu> CC: Lee Songkyo <songkyolee AT gmail.com>, 'Jamie Nagle' <jamie.nagle AT colorado.edu>, Jin Huang <jhuang AT bnl.gov>, Abhisek Sen <sen.abhisek AT gmail.com>, John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov> Hello everyone, the 0-4 fm hijing sims wit hthe al inner hcal are finished (4 jobs crashed and I just restarted them). The files are under: /sphenix/data/data02/rescope-2017-09-08/inner_hcal_al/sHijing/fm_0-4 I changed the setup of the sims so only successfully finished jobs copy their output there (so no more corrupt files, if you still find one - please let me know). Our machines are idling - so I submitted the other hijing b ranges (0-12, 5-9, 9-11) for processing. With a bit of luck most of them should be done by tomorrow, They'll be under /sphenix/data/data02/rescope-2017-09-08/inner_hcal_al/sHijing/fm_<b range>/ Chris On 9/6/2017 8:07 PM, John Lajoie
wrote:
Dear Dennis, Rosi, Sasha, Chris (and cc to a wider audience):
First of all, let me thank everyone for the work that was
presented at the HCAL meeting today. It's clear none of it is
conclusive yet, but I think it is all helping to focus more
clearly on the questions we should attempt to answer on a
short timescale. Here are some notes on what I think the action items are
from today - this is for discussion, so if you disagree,
please speak up. If there is no discussion, then this is what
I expect people will be working on and planning to report on
at the next HCAL meeting (9/20) . One important note - Abhisek has modified the inner HCAL
macro G4_HcalIn_ref.C so it includes a flag:
//Inner HCal absorber material selector: and this is available in git. Setting this flag will modify
both the inner HCAL material to Al *and* change the sampling
fraction so the tower energies are properly calculated. This
should make it easier to swap between configurations without
something being missed. e/h rejection: This is basically for Sasha: (1) It would be good to repeat the 5GeV e/pi studies shown
today to include the proper sampling fraction for the Al inner
HCAL (use the new macro). For the single particles, make an
e/p cut and then estimate the *additional* rejection obtained
from the E_IHCAL/E_CEMC ratio. (2) Repeat the central HIJING embedded studies with the
correct inner HCAL sampling fraction for Al, so we have the
correct plots. Check to see if the conclusion still holds that
in central HIJING the inner HCAL does not yield additional
rejection. (3) Move to the worst offender - antiprotons - and repeat the
singles and embedded studies. That's a fair amount of work. At this point I think we should
take stock again, look at the results, and decide if we want
to continue along the road of essentially reproducing Jin's
earlier work to obtain a combined e/h rejection. jet studies: I personally think that at this point we have learned what we can learn from single particle studies, and we should ramp up more realistic jet studies. (If we need to go back and run some single particles as a crosscheck it's fairly quick to do so.) (1) Run pythia jets with SS310 (already available from
previous studies) and Al inner HCAL. -> Fraction of jet energy leakage out the back as a function of jet energy (black hole) -> Jet energy resolution (in this case with and without
reading out the Al inner HCAL to see the effect) -> Lateral size of the jets - something like this: run the jet finder with a large jet radius, and then look at the tower energy distribution radially from the jet axis for the towers included in the jet for the inner and outer HCAL. This is one quantitative way to look at how the calo jet shape/size is affected by the material change. (I'm sure there are more things that can be looked at as well.) I can contribute jet finding code that I used to do similar
things for the forward calorimeters if that is helpful. The
above would be a good start, and would undoubtedly lead to
more questions. I would like Rosi and Dennis to get Songkyo
Lee involved in this as well (increasing the workforce by
50%). (2) Lay the groundwork we need for HIJING embedded jets,
since this might take some time to run. Dennis suggested that
it would be good to have just a small sample of HIJING events
to start with, and Rosi suggested starting with the a central
selection. Rosi, can you work with Chris to set up exactly
what he should run to get started? Once that is set, I would suggest starting production with the same centrality selections, etc., as done for the jet note studies with Al instead of SS310. This will take a while, but in principle it will be available when we need it. Let me know what you think, but let's stay focused and not go
crazy - getting complete, vetted answers that we are
comfortable with to the above questions is a nontrivial amount
of work for two weeks. Regards, John Lajoie Professor of Physics Iowa State University
(515) 294-6952 lajoie AT iastate.edu Contact me: john.lajoie -- ************************************************************* Christopher H. Pinkenburg ; pinkenburg AT bnl.gov ; http://www.phenix.bnl.gov/~pinkenbu Brookhaven National Laboratory ; phone: (631) 344-5692 Physics Department Bldg 510 C ; fax: (631) 344-3253 Upton, NY 11973-5000 ************************************************************* |
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[Sphenix-hcal-l] Fwd: Re: inner HCAL action items,
John Lajoie, 09/10/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] inner HCAL action items,
Aaron Angerami, 09/11/2017
- Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] inner HCAL action items, John Lajoie, 09/11/2017
- Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] inner HCAL action items, Edouard Kistenev, 09/11/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] inner HCAL action items,
Aaron Angerami, 09/11/2017
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