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Re: [Sphenix-l] [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] Draft for Jet Parallel at RHIC/AGS
- From: Christopher McGinn <chmc7718 AT colorado.edu>
- To: "Perepelitsa, Dennis" <dvp AT bnl.gov>
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- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-l] [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] Draft for Jet Parallel at RHIC/AGS
- Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 22:35:58 +0000
Hello,
Thank you for the feedback - I have attached a text file that gives a rough sense of how I incorporated points (there are a few NA's remaining that are either low priority or will be incorporated tonight as I practice). Please find the updated draft here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AOPqmtWW-OKAg8eKNcAyq2p_snl5CKIa/view?usp=sharing
drive.google.com
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Thanks again!
Chris
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PostDoctoral Associate
University of Colorado Boulder
chmc7718 AT colorado.edu
"Pretty cool"
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Subject: Re: [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] Draft for Jet Parallel at RHIC/AGS
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Subject: Re: [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] Draft for Jet Parallel at RHIC/AGS
Hi Chris,
JLN:Thanks a lot for the nice draft slides.
Below are some combined comments from the Colorado group, from myself and Jamie Nagle:
JLN:
Note the agenda here:
https://indico.bnl.gov/event/9385/
Excellent font choice and layout
slide 6 - rate good for maximum statistics and also minimal physics bias
slide 7 - EMCal has tungsten powder, fiber design (spaghetti calorimeter). No crystals.
slide 7 - not sure about terminology. The front-end electronics (FEE) often refers to the digitizer board that we are working on with Chi and that sits in a rack. I think the boards on the detector are the pre-amp and shaper boards (?)
slide 8 - I think it is fine to say "rapidity" instead of "pseudorapidty" and thus keep the line alignment better.
slide 9 - nice to reference the IEE article
slide 11 - "combination" -> "combined"
slide 15 - "First measurements" -> sometimes called "Day-1 Measurements"
slide 15 - a lot of plots with lots of labels, maybe add a cartoon or text above each one (e.g. jet-jet, g-jet, with some arrows)
slide 15 - again I like to align text, example would be to return and start new line with "sPHENIX can ..."
slide 16 - excellent
slide 21 - not for this week, but it would be great (DVP) if we can make the left plot corrected for the EM-scale of the calorimeter jets. Then one can compare the shapes of the distributions in a more apples-to-apples way.
Very good to practice walking through the slides for time. You have a lot of information and do not want to get stuck on words.
DVP:
slide 6: perhaps add two-pi azimuthal acceptance? (this seems like a minor point, but it’s important for some physics measurements - such as containment asymmetrically quenched dijet pairs, characterization of total energy flow in the event, etc.)
slide 6: I would add “unbiased triggering on jets in pp reference data” - an issue at RHIC
slide 9: you might say something about the test beams more broadly: “Multi-year campaign of test beams at FTBF with successive EMCal+HCal prototypes.” ?
slide 11: maybe “0.1x0.1” rather than 4x4? in any case, I think the re-towering detail is probably less important than a brief description of the algorithm. you could write “iterative algorithm to estimate dE_T / deta d(layer), while attempting
to exclude jets from the estimate”
slide 14: I think it’s valuable to add that for tower jets, the reconstruction and calibration can be identical in pp as in Au+Au (the UE subtraction “factorizes”) which can result in very efficient cancellation of uncertainties - key for physics!
slide 15: these plots are fine to show some expected kinematic ranges with good “out of the box” reconstruction capability. for a look at expected physics sensitivity, you could make a slide with, for example, Figs 7.2 in our Beam Use Proposal: https://indico.bnl.gov/event/7881/attachments/30176/47160/sPH-TRG-2020-001.pdf -
not sure if you have the room
slide 15: a minor point - not sure if worth mentioning - but you could add that due to smaller ISR/FSR, one has an even tighter initial photon-jet pT correlation at RHIC
slide 23: “daily” is probably an over-dramatization, but no strong objection :)
Dennis
On Oct 20, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Christopher McGinn <chmc7718 AT colorado.edu> wrote:
Hello all,
Here is a rough draft of my talk representing the sPHENIX jet work in the RHIC/AGS user's meeting later this week.
I will be adding attributions (both for materials and to individuals responsible for various studies), fixing some of the mis-alignments, and clarifying text.
Please let me know what other suggestions you have, and thank you for your time,
Chris
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Dennis V. Perepelitsa
Assistant Professor, Physics Department
University of Colorado Boulder
Note the agenda here: https://indico.bnl.gov/event/9385/
Excellent font choice and layout
slide 6 - rate good for maximum statistics and also minimal physics bias
* Done (combined w/ DVP related comments to make a bit more coherent)
slide 7 - EMCal has tungsten powder, fiber design (spaghetti calorimeter).
No crystals.
* Switched from crystal to "blocks" and added this clarification
slide 7 - not sure about terminology. The front-end electronics (FEE) often
refers to the digitizer board that we are working on with Chi and that sits
in a rack. I think the boards on the detector are the pre-amp and shaper
boards (?)
* I was generically referring to this full pre-triggering system as FEE; I
will clarify
slide 8 - I think it is fine to say "rapidity" instead of "pseudorapidty" and
thus keep the line alignment better.
* Done (I was 50/50 on this when I wrote the draft)
slide 9 - nice to reference the IEE article
* Done -> Citations added generally
slide 11 - "combination" -> "combined"
* Done
slide 15 - "First measurements" -> sometimes called "Day-1 Measurements"
* Switched to this as a more useful slide title
slide 15 - a lot of plots with lots of labels, maybe add a cartoon or text
above each one (e.g. jet-jet, g-jet, with some arrows)
* I have added clear labels and some cartoons
slide 15 - again I like to align text, example would be to return and start
new line with "sPHENIX can ..."
* Generally text has been reworded to cut down on overall amount - this
helps with alignment issues
slide 16 - excellent
* NA
slide 21 - not for this week, but it would be great (DVP) if we can make the
left plot corrected for the EM-scale of the calorimeter jets. Then one can
compare the shapes of the distributions in a more apples-to-apples way.
Very good to practice walking through the slides for time. You have a lot
of information and do not want to get stuck on words.
* NA
DVP:
slide 6: perhaps add two-pi azimuthal acceptance? (this seems like a minor
point, but itâs important for some physics measurements - such as
containment asymmetrically quenched dijet pairs, characterization of total
energy flow in the event, etc.)
* Done, combined w/ Jamies comments above
slide 6: I would add âunbiased triggering on jets in pp reference dataâ -
an issue at RHIC
* Done, again combined w/ Jamies comments above
slide 9: you might say something about the test beams more broadly:
âMulti-year campaign of test beams at FTBF with successive EMCal+HCal
prototypes.â ?
* NA
slide 11: maybe â0.1x0.1â rather than 4x4? in any case, I think the
re-towering detail is probably less important than a brief description of the
algorithm. you could write âiterative algorithm to estimate dE_T / deta
d(layer), while attempting to exclude jets from the estimateâ
* I have added this detail, and added more info on the literal process of
subtraction as additional slides (LAST PART TO BE DONE STILL)
slide 14: I think itâs valuable to add that for tower jets, the
reconstruction and calibration can be identical in pp as in Au+Au (the UE
subtraction âfactorizesâ) which can result in very efficient cancellation
of uncertainties - key for physics!
* NA
slide 15: these plots are fine to show some expected kinematic ranges with
good âout of the boxâ reconstruction capability. for a look at expected
physics sensitivity, you could make a slide with, for example, Figs 7.2 in
our Beam Use Proposal:
https://indico.bnl.gov/event/7881/attachments/30176/47160/sPH-TRG-2020-001.pdf
- not sure if you have the room
* NA
slide 15: a minor point - not sure if worth mentioning - but you could add
that due to smaller ISR/FSR, one has an even tighter initial photon-jet pT
correlation at RHIC
* NA
slide 23: âdailyâ is probably an over-dramatization, but no strong
objection :) * NA
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[Sphenix-l] Draft for Jet Parallel at RHIC/AGS,
Christopher McGinn, 10/20/2020
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Re: [Sphenix-l] [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] Draft for Jet Parallel at RHIC/AGS,
Perepelitsa, Dennis, 10/21/2020
- Re: [Sphenix-l] [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] Draft for Jet Parallel at RHIC/AGS, Christopher McGinn, 10/21/2020
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Re: [Sphenix-l] [Sphenix-jet-structure-l] Draft for Jet Parallel at RHIC/AGS,
Perepelitsa, Dennis, 10/21/2020
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