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  • From: Ross Corliss <ross.corliss AT stonybrook.edu>
  • To: Martin Purschke <purschke AT bnl.gov>
  • Cc: sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov
  • Subject: Re: [Sphenix-l] Draft of Data Reconstruction talk for ICHEP 2022
  • Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2022 15:46:52 -0400

Dear Martin,

Thank you for fleshing out the details for me. I take it the two file
systems you refer to are identical pairs within each buffer box, and not the
HPSS vs SDCC distinction? I will clarify this (and perhaps add a backup
slide to support).

I will correct 100ns to 110ns, and rest assured that I will say a bit more
out loud than is written on the slide.


-Ross
==========
Dr. Ross Corliss
Research Assistant Professor
Center for Frontiers in Nuclear Science
Stony Brook University
virtual office:
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> On Jul 3, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Martin Purschke via sPHENIX-l
> <sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>
> Hi Ross,
>
> nice talk.
>
> Just a correction, slide 5 - "Buffer boxes fill during peak lumi, drain out
> at end of fill". Not technically correct. I would say "The buffer boxes
> level the incoming data rates and allow us to send the average, rather than
> the peak rates to HPSS."
>
> Some more background for questions: In principle it would be sufficient to
> operate the system as a "leaky bucket" where a variable rate of water flows
> in and a steady rate flows out. The differences in incoming rate is carried
> by the varying water level in the bucket (buffering).
>
> For technical reasons we write the data to one of two file systems. When
> the written-to one hits a high-water mark, we clear the other (that has
> meanwhile been transferred to HPSS), and switch their roles. In this way
> one is only written to and the other is only read from, which dramatically
> increases the throughput (minimizing the disks' head movements).
>
> Since our buffer depth is large enough that we can average over several
> stores (5-10) and their no-data fill time, and also cover breaks for
> accesses, and often no-data MD and APEX days, we can take advantage of the
> significantly lower average data rate compared to the peak rates. The HPSS
> and SDCC transfers only need to be able to sustain that average rate (plus
> a bit of reserve).
>
> Slide 6
> non-RHIC folks will wonder where the 100ns come from (which should actually
> be 110ns == 1 beam crossing). I would try to bring across that the
> acquisition window needs to cover ~118 crossings (those 13 us) to get the
> data just from the triggered-on crossing, and by extending the window by n
> additional crossings we increase the covered crossings by a factor of n.
> This small delta is the "almost for free" aspect.
>
> Hope it helps. Good luck with the talk.
>
> Martin
>
> On 7/3/22 14:05, Ross Corliss via sPHENIX-l wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> I've posted draft slides for the sPHENIX data reconstruction talk at
>> https://indico.bnl.gov/event/16174/contributions/64794/attachments/41947/70236/sPHENIX.Data.Reco.ICHEP.2022.pdf
>>
>> <https://indico.bnl.gov/event/16174/contributions/64794/attachments/41947/70236/sPHENIX.Data.Reco.ICHEP.2022.pdf>
>> The time slot is 15 minutes, so I assume 12.5+2.5 for talk+questions. It
>> takes place in the computing session on Friday, July 8:
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://agenda.infn.it/event/28874/contributions/169210/__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!AY1IkA7FC-cNYEPZqc4zWrNyh84kwdGYwqSl4isD-VX-rHVa1L4A9B0PSRF74yYi3kXcQR0AQtavBcwOPcq4enIvlnYXW0wzipg$
>>
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://agenda.infn.it/event/28874/contributions/169210/__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!HOjf-fN0HvR_ZMzbk6AZHmhZWHNGkfVDRTWXzeaMUH5cToXrNDht4HVvHfG3hFtfxRIteJAtIzHm0zt3PVyFNHpi1G3TLAwlQzk$>
>> (11:30 AM local conference time)
>> I welcome any comments or suggestions you may have, and I'll second
>> Murad's earlier thanks to all the speakers who have uploaded their slides
>> for the collaboration meeting and other recent reports.
>> Gratefully,
>> -Ross
>> ==========
>> Dr. Ross Corliss
>> Research Assistant Professor
>> Center for Frontiers in Nuclear Science
>> Stony Brook University
>> virtual office:
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://stonybrook.zoom.us/my/rossoffice?pwd=ZmZ2SlRIMVFvUUJwbUkyOVNVTmE5QT09__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!AY1IkA7FC-cNYEPZqc4zWrNyh84kwdGYwqSl4isD-VX-rHVa1L4A9B0PSRF74yYi3kXcQR0AQtavBcwOPcq4enIvlnYXC1xDLs0$
>>
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://stonybrook.zoom.us/my/rossoffice?pwd=ZmZ2SlRIMVFvUUJwbUkyOVNVTmE5QT09__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!HOjf-fN0HvR_ZMzbk6AZHmhZWHNGkfVDRTWXzeaMUH5cToXrNDht4HVvHfG3hFtfxRIteJAtIzHm0zt3PVyFNHpi1G3To4rbY1U$>
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