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  • From: Kin Yip <kinyip AT bnl.gov>
  • To: "sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: [Sphenix-magnet-l] leak searching status
  • Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:46:59 -0400

Hi Roberto et. al.,

Below is what Ray told me this morning.  They were waiting for the C-AD vacuum group for the tech / leak detector.  I talked with Mike Mapes and
he's not sure whether he'll be able to help Ray today as they have a bake-out event in NSRL (though he said he'd try).  ( And not all the vacuum group
staff would come back immediately on Tuesday.  )  I'll ask Ray and the vacuum group next Tuesday or so ...

I think Ray is working along with your "philosophy" (checking the outside/lower portion before tearing anything apart) ... And if needed, we'll use air
or nitrogen to flush the not-very-big vacuum system (inside Valve Box).

Kin


-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: RE: checking with you Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:59:02 -0400 From: Ceruti, Raymond B <rayc AT bnl.gov> To: Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>

Hi Kin,

   We were in 912 early this morning and opened up the curved door by the scaffold.  I sent a request to the CAD vacuum group to once again borrow a tech and leak detector.  When they get back to me we will first attempt to pressurize the lines and sniff suspect areas inside the can.  There are many people using up vacation time so I can’t say how long this will take but will keep you posted as to any progress.

Regards,

Ray    

 

From: Kin Yip [mailto:kinyip AT bnl.gov]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 10:49 AM
To: Ceruti, Raymond B
Subject: checking with you

 

Dear Ray,

I went to the Valve box area around 10:30 am today and I didn't see any of you ....  So, I'm just trying to check with you ...

I saw that the bottom part is open and are you trying to let the He go away naturally ?   ( We can use air/nitrogen, instead of HD that our
safety people are worried. )   

Will you try to do what Roberto is suggesting ("Can we bag them individually and then insert the sniffer probe?") ??

In any case, can you please let us know the status (by the end of today) ?? ... 

Kin

On 09/03/2015 02:27 PM, Ceruti, Raymond B wrote:

Hi Kin,

     I’m out this afternoon on personal business.  I’ll be back tomorrow morning as usual.  We don’t have to resort to anything major until we do more testing which we intend to do.  See you all tomorrow.

Regards,

Ray

 

From: Kin Yip [mailto:kinyip AT bnl.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 2:03 PM
To: Ceruti, Raymond B; Than, Yatming (Roberto)
Subject: Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] leak in the He pipeline of Valve Box (2nd trial)

 

Hi Ray,

I can't find you on the phone and so I type this email.   Do you think what Roberto suggests make sense and do what he suggests before
we start the difficult "surgery" into the valve box ?

( Or, we need to have a meeting to talk about it ?? )

Kin

On 09/03/2015 01:23 PM, Than, Yatming (Roberto) wrote:

Ray,

Before we move upward,  let’s double check the leak check at the lower capped joints.

Can we bag them individually and then insert the sniffer probe?

Helium will accumulate in the high points, so it is natural to see a higher readout when you move into the chimney.

 

You have a -3 range leak is what I read, which is a large leak.

 

When we move upward we need to remove all the MLI insulation in order to bag and sniff the joints.

 

Roberto

 

 

 

From: sphenix-magnet-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov [mailto:sphenix-magnet-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On Behalf Of Ceruti, Raymond B
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:59 AM
To: Yip, Kin; sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov
Subject: Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] leak in the He pipeline of Valve Box (2nd trial)

 

Hi All,

      After our unsuccessful pressure leak test this morning we dropped the lower vacuum can (the easy one to remove) and sniffed all the joints that were accessible.  Those joints were found to be not leaking but with the probe inserted up into the heat shield from below, the leak detector dropped down a decade.  This seems to indicate that our leek is more than likely in the upper area.  I would suggest that we remove at least one door and pump on the helium line in an attempt to locate this leak.

Regards,

Ray    

 

From: sphenix-magnet-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov [mailto:sphenix-magnet-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On Behalf Of Kin Yip
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:59 AM
To: sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov
Subject: [Sphenix-magnet-l] leak in the He pipeline of Valve Box (2nd trial)

 

 

Hi,

After gathering M. Gaffney and the safety people, Ray Ceruti and his team pumped in He (to the max. of 6.6 bar) to do the pressure test. 
Before the pressure test, the vacuum pressure was at the level of something like 7*10-9 mbar or so.  But after pumping in He, the pressure
reached 10-3 mbar in about 10 minutes.   So, there is a leak (though may not be huge).   [  In the process, they found a O-ring outside that
was burst but that's not the reason   as it's between the outside atmosphere and the valvebox (not between the He pipeline and inside valvebox. ]

Ray et. al. now need to find it (by breaking up the system piece by piece) ... I have the impression that it's not easy ......

Kin

 

 

 





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