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  • From: "Tallerico, Thomas N" <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
  • To: "Yip, Kin" <kinyip AT bnl.gov>, "Michnoff, Robert J" <michnoff AT bnl.gov>
  • Cc: "Masi Jr, Leonard" <masi AT bnl.gov>, "sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810
  • Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 12:48:43 +0000

Sounds good, thank you. Tom

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From: Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 8:45:06 AM
To: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>; Michnoff, Robert J <michnoff AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>; sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov <sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810
 

Hello,

 

Once we have a scaffolding on the south around the Extension doghouse, we can all climb up to take a look/verify 😊

 

Kin

 

From: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 8:04 AM
To: Michnoff, Robert J <michnoff AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>; Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>; Orfin, Paul <porfin AT bnl.gov>; Than, Yatming (Roberto) <ythan AT bnl.gov>
Subject: Fwd: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810

 

FYI. The new Sensors from Lake Shore have 12 weeks lead time. Thanks Tom 


From: Orfin, Paul <porfin AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 7:50 AM
To: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810

 

All,

 

I believe we had this all sorted out from our last group email.  Len was to verify that we had backup cernox sensors and if the sensors were still “hanging” off the bottom based on his pictures.  As long as that board is not touching the sensor we will be good from a thermal reading aspect.  No mechanical clamp was needed based on our conversation.

 

Tom order sensors with bigger wires as a back up but the lead times was very long. 

 

Let me know if I missed something.  Otherwise, let Rob and Kin know today.

 

Thank you,

Paul Orfin
Cryogenic Systems, Collider-Accelerator Department
Brookhaven National Laboratory
Telephone: (631) 344-2899
E-mail:
porfin AT bnl.gov

 

From: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 7:43 AM
To: Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Michnoff, Robert J <michnoff AT bnl.gov>; Danielson, Nils S <ndanielson AT bnl.gov>; Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>; Orfin, Paul <porfin AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810

 

We are working on it. Thanks Tom

 

From: Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 7:18 AM
To: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Michnoff, Robert J <michnoff AT bnl.gov>; Danielson, Nils S <ndanielson AT bnl.gov>; Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>; Orfin, Paul <porfin AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810

 

Hi Tom,

 

Have you found a solution (for this temperature sensor on superconducting bus in the doghouse) that will be in time for our magnet mapping ?

 

Kin

 

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: David McKinnon <david.mckinnon AT lakeshore.com>

Date: 5/6/22 3:48 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: "Tallerico, Thomas N" <tallerico AT bnl.gov>

Cc: "Michnoff, Robert J" <michnoff AT bnl.gov>, "Danielson, Nils S" <ndanielson AT bnl.gov>, "Masi Jr, Leonard" <masi AT bnl.gov>, "Yip, Kin" <kinyip AT bnl.gov>, "Orfin, Paul" <porfin AT bnl.gov>

Subject: RE: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810

 

Hi Tom,

 

That’s odd. Not sure how I got that mixed up.  I can revise the quote for a 4L calibration.  The difference besides the calibration is the sensitivity between the CX-1050 and CX-1070.  Would you like me to revise the quote?

 

 

Typical Cernox sensitivity

 

 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Lake

 

David.McKinnon AT lakeshore.com

Direct: 614-212-1601

Sales:  614-891-2244

www.lakeshore.com

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David McKinnon

Inside Sales Engineer
Temperature & Magnetic Sensors

Lake Shore is committed to our customers’ pursuit of the science that benefits mankind

Janis Research is now a Lake Shore company

 

 

 

 

From: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:59 PM
To: David McKinnon <david.mckinnon AT lakeshore.com>
Cc: Michnoff, Robert J <michnoff AT bnl.gov>; Danielson, Nils S <ndanielson AT bnl.gov>; Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>; Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>; Orfin, Paul <porfin AT bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810

 

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From the quote. (Note to Dave McKinnon at Lake Shore: I originally asked for 4L temperature range. You quoted me 1.4M. Is that standard now? ) Thanks Tom Tallerico

 

XS-CX-1050-CY-1.4M-38810                            2.00 EA              2,554.00            

5,108.00                                       5,108.00

Custom redundant CX-1050 sensors in CY bobbin - 1.4M calibration with 36 inch, 28 AWG lead

extensions.

Warranty:  3 Year Warranty                                                                      

Lead Time  14-16 Weeks ARO

Our Part:  XCX-CAL                                                                Rev:  A

Custom sensor assmbly: Two (2) CX-1050-SD-HT-1.4M sensor in a single CY package, 36 AWG, QL,

Polyimide insulation, @ 5 inches(+ 1'1/-0'')   in  length    , spliced from Stycast exit. Lead

Extensions with solder sleeve at 3 inches and 5 inches to stagger the bulkiness to 28 AWG wire.

Serial numbers scribed on both sides of -CY adapter and each wire set labeled with sensor serial

number.

 


From: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:54 PM
To: David McKinnon <david.mckinnon AT lakeshore.com>
Cc: Michnoff, Robert J <michnoff AT bnl.gov>; Danielson, Nils S <ndanielson AT bnl.gov>; Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>; Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>; Orfin, Paul <porfin AT bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810

 

Replacement Lake Shore sensors for the leads. First topic 14-16 weeks ARO. Yikes Tom


From: David McKinnon <david.mckinnon AT lakeshore.com>
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2022 2:51 PM
To: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Michnoff, Robert J <michnoff AT bnl.gov>; Danielson, Nils S <ndanielson AT bnl.gov>; Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>; Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>; Orfin, Paul <porfin AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810

 

Hi Tom,

 

Please see attached quotation 38810.   For custom orders, lead times will be confirmed at the time PO is placed.

 

 

If you need a COC (Certification of Conformance)  for your order please let me know and I can revise the quote. One COC would be needed  for each different model number. The cost is ~$40.00 per unique model number. The COC does not include any data and basically only states that the part meets our published specifications and includes lot tracking information. 

 

Do you have an estimated need by and PO date?    

   

We also provide additional 1 or 2 year extended warranty from our 3 year warranty. Please let me know if this is something you would like add to the quotation.   

If you have any questions or modifications to the quote please contact me.    

     

If you choose to order the product listed on this quote, you may email your order to sales AT lakeshore.com or for credit card call direct  614-891-2244 or (614-891-2243 and press option 1 for sales). Please do not email, fax, or leave a voicemail message with your credit card information. Customer Service will enter information directly into system where it will be encrypted. If you would like to order online please vist https://shop.lakeshore.com/

 

 

Minimum order amount is $75 when using a Purchase Order. There is not a minimum when using a credit card. 

 

·        Buyer is responsible for all shipping costs    

·        We ship FOB Origin – Westerville Ohio – Prepaid and add.  If you have a preferred carrier and want us to ship collect please advise account number.   

·        VAT, duties and/or taxes are the responsibility of the buyer. 

·        If you have a new or renewed sales tax exempt form please forward this to me so we can update your account. (If your quote shows sales tax, you are not currently exempt in our system). 

·        NOTE: Quote does not include Quality Notes / Terms & Conditions or any additional fees that may be incurred to meet those requirements.    

   

   

   

Returns:   

Lake Shore requires that a Return material Authorization (RMA) be issued before returning anything to the factory for repair or calibration.  Please contact our support department at support AT lakeshore.com to request  RMA when you are ready to place your order for the service listed on this quotation. There is a 15% restocking fee for returned equipment.

   

 

 

 

  • If you have not filled out the End User Certificate this year please see link below. This annually signed certificate is part of our export compliance policy and is required for all non-US government customers.  It requires your confirmation that you won’t use or sell our equipment for testing or building of nuclear or chemical weapons.  It should take you 2-3 minutes to complete.       

      

  • Two-step authentication:   

 

   

Please copy me on all orders and reference the quote number. Thank you!     

  

Webinar: Cryogenic Temperature Sensors Installation Techniques 

Sensor Characteristics: Appendix B

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Lake

 

David.McKinnon AT lakeshore.com

Direct: 614-212-1601

Sales:  614-891-2244

www.lakeshore.com

LinkedIn icon    Twitter icon    Youtube icon   

 

David McKinnon

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Temperature & Magnetic Sensors

Lake Shore is committed to our customers’ pursuit of the science that benefits mankind

Janis Research is now a Lake Shore company

 

 

 

 

From: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2022 9:02 AM
To: David McKinnon <david.mckinnon AT lakeshore.com>
Cc: Michnoff, Robert J <michnoff AT bnl.gov>; Danielson, Nils S <ndanielson AT bnl.gov>; Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>; Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>; Orfin, Paul <porfin AT bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810

 

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Great thanks. Tom


From: David McKinnon <david.mckinnon AT lakeshore.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2022 8:59 AM
To: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Michnoff, Robert J <michnoff AT bnl.gov>; Danielson, Nils S <ndanielson AT bnl.gov>; Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>; Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>; Orfin, Paul <porfin AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: quote status??? - Lake Shore Cryotronics inquiry 38810

 

Hi Tom,

 

I am inquiring about the status of the quote and is currently in design review.

 

 

Description of request: quote for two Cernox installed in CY package with SMOD for 28 AWG phosphor bronze wire.

 

 

Customer Part Number: XS-CX-1050-CY-1.4M-38810

Description: Custom redundant (2) CX-1050-SD-HT-1.4M in CY package, 36 AWG, QL, Polyimide insulation, @ 5 inches (+1"/-0") in length, spliced from Stycast exit. Lead Extensions with solder sleeve at 3 inches and 5 inches to stagger the bulkiness to 28 AWG wire. Serial numbers scribed on both sides of -CY adapter and each wire set labeled with sensor serial number.

Qty: 2

Estimated Price: $2,554 / each

 

 

 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Lake

 

David.McKinnon AT lakeshore.com

Direct: 614-212-1601

Sales:  614-891-2244

www.lakeshore.com

LinkedIn icon    Twitter icon    Youtube icon   

 

David McKinnon

Inside Sales Engineer
Temperature & Magnetic Sensors

Lake Shore is committed to our customers’ pursuit of the science that benefits mankind

Janis Research is now a Lake Shore company

 

 

 

From: Tallerico, Thomas N <tallerico AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2022 8:40 AM
To: David McKinnon <david.mckinnon AT lakeshore.com>
Cc: Michnoff, Robert J <michnoff AT bnl.gov>; Danielson, Nils S <ndanielson AT bnl.gov>; Masi Jr, Leonard <masi AT bnl.gov>; Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>; Orfin, Paul <porfin AT bnl.gov>
Subject: quote status???

 

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Dave, will I be receiving that quote for the redundant lake shore sensors in a few days? Thanks Tom Tallerico

 

*********************BNL internal reference only****************************

Replacement redundant sensors (2) with heavier gauge wire for the Sphenix leads.

***********************************************************************

 

 




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