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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX
- From: "Liu, Ming Xiong" <mliu AT lanl.gov>
- To: "Shi, Zhaozhong" <zhaozhongshi AT lanl.gov>, Cameron Thomas Dean <cameron.dean AT cern.ch>, "cdean AT bnl.gov" <cdean AT bnl.gov>, Jin Huang <jhuang AT bnl.gov>, Antonio Silva via sPHENIX-HF-jets-l <sphenix-hf-Jets-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, Cameron Thomas Dean via sPHENIX-MAPS-l <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX
- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:54:10 +0000
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 10:32:59 AM
To: Cameron Thomas Dean <cameron.dean AT cern.ch>; cdean AT bnl.gov <cdean AT bnl.gov>; Jin Huang <jhuang AT bnl.gov>; Antonio Silva via sPHENIX-HF-jets-l <sphenix-hf-Jets-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; Cameron Thomas Dean via sPHENIX-MAPS-l <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX
Zhaozhong Shi, PhD
Director's Postdoctoral Fellow
P-3: Nuclear and Particle Physics and Application
Los Alamos National Laboratory
TA-53 Building 1 A106
Los Alamos, New Mexico 87545
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 1:27 PM
To: Shi, Zhaozhong <zhaozhongshi AT lanl.gov>; cdean AT bnl.gov <cdean AT bnl.gov>; Jin Huang <jhuang AT bnl.gov>; Antonio Silva via sPHENIX-HF-jets-l <sphenix-hf-Jets-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; Cameron Thomas Dean via sPHENIX-MAPS-l <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX
Hi Zhaozhong,
Yes, it’s in the BUP in Figures 4.6 and 4.7
https://indico.bnl.gov/event/15845/attachments/40963/68517/sPHENIX_Beam_Use_Proposal_2022.pdf
Cheers,
Cameron
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Reply to: "zhaozhongshi AT lanl.gov" <zhaozhongshi AT lanl.gov>
Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 1:24 PM
To: "cdean AT bnl.gov" <cdean AT bnl.gov>, Jin Huang <jhuang AT bnl.gov>, Antonio Silva via sPHENIX-HF-jets-l <sphenix-hf-Jets-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, Cameron Thomas Dean via sPHENIX-MAPS-l <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX
Hi Jin and Cameron.,
Do we have b-hadron RAA and v2 approved to use? I will need to look them up honestly. Thank you very much!
Sincerely,
Zhaozhong Shi
Zhaozhong Shi, PhD
Director's Postdoctoral Fellow
P-3: Nuclear and Particle Physics and Application
Los Alamos National Laboratory
TA-53 Building 1 A106
Los Alamos, New Mexico 87545
From: Dean, Cameron <cdean AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 11:33 AM
To: Huang, Jin <jhuang AT bnl.gov>; Shi, Zhaozhong <zhaozhongshi AT lanl.gov>; Antonio Silva via sPHENIX-HF-jets-l <sphenix-hf-jets-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; Cameron Thomas Dean via sPHENIX-MAPS-l <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX
Hi Zhaozhong,
Thanks as well for putting together your poster. I tried to add comments on top of Jin’s to avoid duplicates. There is one point that Jin made that I felt I had to make as well. I’m happy to receive and help with the next version.
- Abstract
- "Moreover, indirect measurements on non-prompt D-mesons and heavy flavor decayed leptons have been carried out extensively" is probably better as "Moreover, indirect measurements on non-prompt D-mesons and heavy flavor decayed leptons have been carried out extensively at both the LHC and RHIC". The current way implies STAR doesn't have a paper on this.
- Remove "In this poster,"
- "discuss projections" should be "demonstrate projections"
- "discuss the expected" should be "show the expected"
- Remove "We will also report on the status of b-physics analysis"
- b-physics at sPHENIX
- "Long decay lifetime, separation of secondary vertex from primary vertex". This sounds like two separate points but they're equivalent, a long lifetime means you can easily separate SV and PV so this should be more like "Long decay lifetime means good (or easy?) separation of secondary vertex from primary vertex"
- "Constraint" should be "Constrain"
- "Beauty quark hadronization mechanism" feels like half a sentence, should it be "Understand b-quark hadronization mechanism" (beauty to b will save you space to make the change)
- sPHENIX MVTX Detector
- I would change the second picture to a real picture of the MVTX. We have the detector and you should demonstrate the work you did
- "High granularity of pixel pitches" this sounds weird. The pitch is just the length of the pixel so this should be "High granularity of pixels".
- MVTX + INTT + TPOT Event Display
- Figure. Hao-Ren has updated this with the preliminary tag and track projection so you can swap this out.
- You mention cluster cleaning twice so one of them should be removed: "Cluster cleaning to reduce background noise" and "Clear clusters from cosmic muon track in all 3 tracking subsystems"
- "Simple circular fit to obtain cosmic muon track 𝑝'" we removed the pT from the plots so I wouldn't mention it (as someone will ask). Maybe say "Simple circular fit to demonstrate hit alignment between subsystems"?
- Enrich 𝒃"𝒃 Events with Artificial Intelligence
- I actually read through this before reading Jin's comments and came to the same conclusion. You should remove this and swap with a discussion on v2 and R_AA predictions. We have both in the BUP that you can use but there is no discussion in the poster on b-hadron predictions. If you need space, I would also remove the event display section.
- Summary
- I think this will be easy to re-write once you have the section on v2 and R_AA as they should be in the conclusion.
Cheers,
Cameron
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Reply to: "Huang, Jin" <jhuang AT bnl.gov>
Date: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 12:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX
Dear Zhaozhong
Thanks for putting together the poster draft. Please find my comments below. Please revise the poster and share with the list again:
- Abstract:
- “sPHENIX will begin commissioning with Au + Au collisions” should be changed to the past tense.
- b-physics at sPHENIX
- First bullet, “Excellent tracking and vertexing performance”:
- This bullet is out of context. Please remove it.
- “Retain memory through the medium” can be merged with the bullet before it.
- Search for fully reconstructed beauty hadron at RHIC
- A stronger (e.g., precision measurement) and more specific (e.g. which final state) statement should be used here.
- “sPHENIX has the capability of doing b-physics.”
- Can be moved to the next box of sPHENIX intro.
- First Year Data Taking and Analysis
- Please remove these two bullets: “People from all over the world participate in shift at the control room” , “Collected to large amount of beam data.”
- Please mention the date of running time
- “MVTX operated in streaming readout mode with physics trigger” is unclear. Please rephrase the role physics trigger played in the streaming mode.
- “Resume new run in late 2023 with p + p, p + Au, and Au + Au collisions.”
-> “p + p, and Au + Au data taking in Run24.”
- MVTX + INTT + TPOT Event Display
- In general, there is large empty space in this display. You can consider just add a previously approved TPC display of the AuAu collision data.
- Remove “Ideal detector geometry used for event display.”
- “Simple circular fit to obtain cosmic muon track 𝑝T” : is not supported by the plot. Please either add the track to plot or remove this statement.
- Enrich bb Events with Artificial Intelligence
- It is unclear this can have a contribution to the Run24 physics program.
- Please replace the whole section with RAA and v2 projection, which is advertised in the title.
- Summary:
- “Tracking commissioning: event display of MVTX + INTT + TPOT detector with simple tracking to measure cosmic muon 𝑝T'”
- This bullet is both strange and duplication of the last one. Please remove it.
- “More physics simulations based on data performance ongoing.”
-> sPHENIX will provide strong model constraints on the b-quark transport in the QGP at the RHIC energy
Cheers
Jin
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From: Shi, Zhaozhong <zhaozhongshi AT lanl.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 9:26 PM
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Subject: [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX
Dear HF Topic Group Conveners,
I have just finished preparing a draft entitled "b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX " for my Quark Matter 2023 poster. I posted it on Invenio shown in the link below:
Would you please have a look? Any comment or suggestion will be highly appreciated. Thank you very much!
Sincerely,
Zhaozhong Shi
Zhaozhong Shi, PhD
Director's Postdoctoral Fellow
P-3: Nuclear and Particle Physics and Application
Los Alamos National Laboratory
TA-53 Building 1 A106
Los Alamos, New Mexico 87545
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX,
Dean, Cameron, 08/23/2023
- Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX, Shi, Zhaozhong, 08/23/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX,
Cameron Thomas Dean, 08/23/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX,
Shi, Zhaozhong, 08/23/2023
- Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX, Liu, Ming Xiong, 08/23/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [QM 2023] Quark Matter 2023 Poster: b-hadron RAA and v2 with sPHENIX,
Shi, Zhaozhong, 08/23/2023
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