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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sphenix-trigger-l] Slides for TWEPP conference
- From: "Schambach, Jo" <schambachjj AT ornl.gov>
- To: "Purschke, Martin" <purschke AT bnl.gov>, Jakub Kvapil <jakub.kvapil AT cern.ch>, "sPHENIX-trigger-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sPHENIX-trigger-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sphenix-trigger-l] Slides for TWEPP conference
- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:29:10 +0000
Hi Jakub,
Martin already mentioned most of the issues I had as well.
On the fibers:
We have a trunk cable of 58m length. There is a patch in the DAQ room with 5m
length. Then there is a patch from 1E2 to 2E1 with 15m length, and then LC-LC
fibers of 3m length, so a total of 81m.
On slide 18, the last 3 dates should probably be 2023, and 2024?
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sphenix-trigger-l] Slides for TWEPP conference
Hi Jakub
interesting slides.
Some comments -
Slide 4:
sPHENIX is definitely higher than 3m...
RHIC has an ~60MHz clock, 56.299 to be exact, and 1/6 of that is the bunch
crossing rate. (and yes for the MVTX we provide a 40MHz clock so it feels
like at the LHC)
I would leave out the "due to calorimeter limit", 15KHz was the design
The "MVTX and INTT" with the sub-point "Tracking Detectors capable of
streamed readout" makes it sound like only those 2 can do it. Not true.
BTW, I always see it called streaming readout - small point.
The annotations you added that label the groups with oHCal/iHCal etc on
Slide 9 make it look like overall there are just 6 such PCs. You have to
get across that this is only a schematic overview.
Again, I know you are using MVTX and INTT, but the TPC is also SRO-capable.
Slide 10 - the thing with the local mode is kinda irrelevant in this
context.
Not sure what to make of the sentence about the busy - it's misleading.
The GL1 maintains a global busy that the GTMs feed into.
You mangled and re-drew the right lower diagram from my slides but made
it wrong. There are 4 LL1 fibers coming in, you draw 6 and say "56".
(And it's 4 Lemos, not 8.) I find what I have in several of my
presentations (I showed you the shift training slides) that explains
what constitutes a "Granule" better and clearer.
Slide 11 -
"stretch the latency down" seems like an odd choice of words.
point 2) JH can correct me, I believe we have 158m trunks + whatever the
patches add, and they are fibers, not cables.
On Sl 14, with "extract the Wupper module", do you mean remove? How will
you configure the unit then w/o PCIe access? (Just curious).
Ok, have fun in Italy!
Martin
On 9/25/23 19:10, Jakub Kvapil wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> some of you get know during the QM that we have a small R&D project for
> developing FPGA based ML triggering system which demonstrator we plan to >
> deploy for the pp run at sPHENIX.
> When I was preparing slides, it become obvious that without introducing
> the sPHENIX DAQ and triggering system in more detailed manner, the
> overall talk will not make much sense.
> Thus, we have decided to circulate the slides also within sPHENIX.
>
> Any comments and questions are highly appreciated. I will update the
> coloring to be more uniform later.
> They are for the TWEPP conference - Topical Workshop on electronics for
> particle physics
> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.cern.ch_event_1255624_&d=DwICAg&c=v4IIwRuZAmwupIjowmMWUmLasxPEgYsgNI-O7C4ViYc&r=vJwFlNlBwHwYQvNuLhi0PaY0_599z14u-ahiU0PfpPE&m=iArdP28bKu4FsiEYNp6uXWMihKAeCXGcft4zMlNFF-HSr9HXh54YhaphquCzw672&s=KuneqgCY3PHZ3vuYKZ6wwbe_px_LFWUfDCzvHUlcHns&e=__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!FgVhTL8T8g8W5arzZohQHqMkpZI2wH_99RfiDukaL83jOugdt0OY6ha_w8nlzYUqpqxuMAfWu_4gogEwJ1Bf6e7WfYxerPMT1Q$
>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://urldefense.us/v2/url?u=https-3A__indico.cern.ch_event_1255624_&d=DwICAg&c=v4IIwRuZAmwupIjowmMWUmLasxPEgYsgNI-O7C4ViYc&r=vJwFlNlBwHwYQvNuLhi0PaY0_599z14u-ahiU0PfpPE&m=iArdP28bKu4FsiEYNp6uXWMihKAeCXGcft4zMlNFF-HSr9HXh54YhaphquCzw672&s=KuneqgCY3PHZ3vuYKZ6wwbe_px_LFWUfDCzvHUlcHns&e=__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!FgVhTL8T8g8W5arzZohQHqMkpZI2wH_99RfiDukaL83jOugdt0OY6ha_w8nlzYUqpqxuMAfWu_4gogEwJ1Bf6e7WfYxerPMT1Q$
> >), thus heavily specialized. The
> time is 16+4.
> Please provide any comments by this Wednesday, as I am flying on Friday
> (sorry for later notice)
>
> Thanks a lot
> Best regards
> Jakub
>
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[Sphenix-maps-l] Slides for TWEPP conference,
Jakub Kvapil, 09/25/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] Slides for TWEPP conference,
Martin Purschke, 09/25/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sphenix-trigger-l] Slides for TWEPP conference,
Schambach, Jo, 09/26/2023
- Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sphenix-trigger-l] Slides for TWEPP conference, Jakub Kvapil, 09/26/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Sphenix-trigger-l] Slides for TWEPP conference,
Schambach, Jo, 09/26/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] Slides for TWEPP conference,
Martin Purschke, 09/25/2023
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