sPHENIX MAPS tracker discussion

[Jakub Kvapil <jakub.kvapil AT cern.ch>]

Dear Grazyna,

yup, 1 meter is too far. It did not help much last year. Ming added more slides into the presentation.

I think it should be open. It would be great if you can join. 

https://indico.bnl.gov/event/22878/

Can you access it? It will be 2:30 pm ET.

Thanks

Best regards

Jakub

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From: Grazyna Odyniec <g_odyniec AT lbl.gov>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 2:28 PM
To: Jakub Kvapil <jakub.kvapil AT cern.ch>; sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [EXTERNAL] next Electronics meeting tomorrow 3/28 at 1pm Eastern

 

Hi Jakub,

Thank you for this !

So, to be honest, 1 m from BP is quite useless ! Am I correct ?

Can you send me a link to tomorrow's meeting ? Is it open ? Can I just
join ? What time it is going to be ?

Thanks

Grazyna




On 3/28/24 1:01 PM, Jakub Kvapil wrote:
> Dear Grazyna,
>
> yes we plan left, right, top and bottom.
> what we understood it would require months of approvals to get close
> to BP or inside the magnet, so for now we want to put it as closest as
> possible they will allow us.
> We could assemble both north and south, but we are not sure where to
> put the readout (putting anything on sPHENIX racks might be moths of
> approvals again), so for the south side, we were actually thinking to
> route it to the chiller platforms. However, there is no such thing on
> north side?
> Unfortunately, if we want to be on the level of L0 we would need to be
> inside the solenoid.
> So we will see tomorrow after the sPHENIX discussion where they will
> allow us to put it.
> Cameron, showed us the main sPHENIX beam monitors (if those are the
> one you speak about) and they are like 1? meter (they were hugging the
> RHIC dipole) away from the center of the BP?
>
> Best regards
> Jakub
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* sPHENIX-MAPS-l <sphenix-maps-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> on
> behalf of Grazyna Odyniec via sPHENIX-MAPS-l
> <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2024 1:42 PM
> *To:* sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> *Subject:* Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [EXTERNAL] next Electronics meeting
> tomorrow 3/28 at 1pm Eastern
> Hi Ming and All,
>
> Slides are very informative. 8 of them, 4 on blue BP and 4 on yellow,
> right ? So, left, right, up and down (in respect to the BP) on both
> sides ?
>
> Can we get closer to the BP, for example at ~ L0 distance ? Slide 5
> shows 2 inches. It may be less background there than the L0 would get.
>
> I assume that background may deteriorate radially. Or perhaps one can
> plan to be as close as possible to the BP?.
>
> I was thinking that perhaps it would be good to have 2 on the L0 level
> and two 'on as close as possible' level. 2 inches may be far away from
> the "problem".
>
> This way we will be able to help CA-D and also know what the MVTX is
> getting.
>
> BTW: at what distance from the BP are the  CA-D monitoring devices?
>
> My 3 cents ...
>
> Grazyna
>
>
> On 3/28/24 11:39 AM, Liu, Ming Xiong via sPHENIX-MAPS-l wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jo and all,
> >
> > I will be a bit late from another meeting.
> >
> > One thing we could discuss today is preparation for possible high beam
> > backgrounds again in pp and AuAu.
> >
> > We are building compact beam background monitors to help CAD to tune
> > beam, here are a few slides for discussions at Friday’s sPHENIX
> > operation meeting,
> >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/193HSm3uT9yycVkO3EM8rg8sm1pI4-0O5KZX0NSfSh0U/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!CN9BnbBxTmvh1lEtkUia69vd3fI9WoRqrEwJUIIIiNpo2-l82SRygq2heTibaGoZK3UXo7-A1j13BxQZ65rNZXSpXTVIvrc$
>
> >
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/193HSm3uT9yycVkO3EM8rg8sm1pI4-0O5KZX0NSfSh0U/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!G0Fg2wEY1yneYOZv4DOKc4fNEJw2WEIG9JwiPckdeg1nFlc-lv3Z2WrpWeNDK_ttGfaY0JlA_oQXauax3p_zFqcM$>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ming
> >
> > --
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> > *From: *sPHENIX-MAPS-l <sphenix-maps-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> on
> > behalf of SPHENIX MVTX <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> > *Reply-To: *Jo Schambach <schambachjj AT ornl.gov>
> > *Date: *Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 3:23 PM
> > *To: *SPHENIX MVTX <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> > *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] [Sphenix-maps-l] next Electronics meeting
> > tomorrow 3/28 at 1pm Eastern
> >
> > What:    Weekly MVTX Electronics meeting
> >
> > When:   28 March 2024, 13:-00 EST
> >
> > Indico: https://indico.bnl.gov/event/22875/
> >
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> > Zoom:
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