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  • From: pinkenburg <pinkenburg AT bnl.gov>
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  • Subject: [[Sphenix-software-l] ] [Sphenix-software-l] ] [reminder] sPHENIX simulation and software meeting on September 10th, 1:00PM ET
  • Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 17:37:02 -0400

Hello everybody,

This is a reminder that we will have a sPHENIX simulation and software meeting tomorrow September 10th 1:00PM ET.

The Agenda for this meeting is: https://indico.bnl.gov/event/24674/

We have to talk seriously about coordinating resource usage. The free for all is coming to an end (or better a screeching halt). We kind of addressed the cpu usage with last weeks limit to 23k jobs only to encounter the disk as the next bottleneck. Just try to read from or write to /sphenix/tg/tg01 or /sphenix/user and you'll see that our current approach is just not workable. Each of them can do 10+GB/s which isn't shabby but 20k condor jobs can overwhelm this easily, see the attached snapshots from today. Even lustre with its 100-200GB/s capabilities doesn't stand a chance in the longer run (once we try to go over full datasets).

We need to agree on priorities - what is absolutely essential (verification of our incoming data), essential (preparing our data for physics analysis, calibrations), important (analysis prep, pp sims), nice to have (Au+Au related analysis),...

The place to set those are the TGs - one option would be that projects using a lot of our resources need to be endorsed by the respective TG convenors (or detector groups). I don't have a good idea where to set the bar for this (1k jobs, 10k,...?) but we need to do something that the investment of resources to run these jobs benefits sPHENIX at large.

The other issue which has to be addressed are the simulations. I have been looking of what is being run right now and it's basically a waste of time. We run at different crossing angle(s), have likely different vertex distributions and definitely different luminosities which go then into our pileup sims. The primary calorimeter output is still the crude energy to adc conversion with some noise applied and a zero suppression nobody believes in and then there is the tracking (which is understandably in flux and really hard). A small group of people tackling this can make a real difference here.


sPHENIX members should have write access, the access key is babar1008

Don't forget the office hours at 3:00pm-3:30pm (Help will always be given at sPHENIX for those who ask for it).

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Looking forward to talking to you,

Cheers,

Chris
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