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  • From: Nu Xu <nxu AT lbl.gov>
  • To: Rutik Manikandhan <manikandhan.rutik AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: Nu Xu <nxu AT lbl.gov>, Somadutta Bhatta <somadutta.bhatta AT stonybrook.edu>, STAR Correlations and Fluctuations PWG <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk <hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-cf-l] STAR presentation by Rutik Manikandhan for WWND 2024 submitted for review
  • Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 08:47:20 -0800

Dear Rutik,
Somehow the link to drupal does not work.
Please fix it asap.

Thank you,
Nu

> On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:04 AM, Rutik Manikandhan <manikandhan.rutik AT gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Somadutta and Conveners,
>
> I have made the changes accordingly, thank you for the input!
> link: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/WWND_2024_ver3.pdf
>
> Best,
> Rutik Manikandhan
> PhD Candidate, Experimental High Energy Group
> Physics Dept.
> University of Houston
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 8:32 AM Somadutta Bhatta
> <somadutta.bhatta AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:
> Dear Rutik,
>
> Thank you for sharing your nice slides for WWND.
> I have a few comments on claims about the independent superposition
> scenario (particle production from uncorrelated sources) at 200 GeV and
> 2.76 TeV made in Slide 17 and 18 of your presentation.
>
> Your slides have the following statements:
> Slide 17: Power law seems to describe the data at 200 GeV, implying an
> independent sources scenario
> Slide 18: STAR 200 GeV and ALICE 2.76 TeV follow power law (b=-0.5).
>
> In previous publications from STAR/ALICE studies of mean pT fluctuations
> (at 200 GeV and 2.76 TeV), they have reported the existence of genuine
> correlations beyond the independent sources scenario. A power-law fitting
> parameter of exactly -0.5 implies that the produced particles are from
> independent pp-like sources, whereas, any value of the parameter larger
> than that implies the existence of genuine dynamical correlations in excess
> of independent superposition.
>
> In the ALICE paper (Fig 5 in
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://arxiv.org/pdf/1407.5530.pdf__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!ERkmF-BEnsbYKNcodZhEE9tORf4653y-scxckgLPMVx-AO4aD5UcFhQd9-NHMs7G5iNf7zTLLwXOL-OINhU$
> ), the power-law fitting for sqrt(K2) reports a value of power-law
> exponent ~0.45 at 2.76 TeV, whereas, STAR measurements (Fig 3 in
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://arxiv.org/pdf/nucl-ex/0504031.pdf__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!ERkmF-BEnsbYKNcodZhEE9tORf4653y-scxckgLPMVx-AO4aD5UcFhQd9-NHMs7G5iNf7zTLLwXOhrHbGXo$
> ) reports significantly larger correlations than HIJING calculations
> (HIJING is expected to follow independent superposition exactly, see
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://arxiv.org/pdf/2112.03397.pdf__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!ERkmF-BEnsbYKNcodZhEE9tORf4653y-scxckgLPMVx-AO4aD5UcFhQd9-NHMs7G5iNf7zTLLwXOWC227Ts$
> ). A HIJING model comparison is also shown in the ALICE paper as well with
> the same conclusion.
>
> These observations imply that particle production in data is not only from
> uncorrelated sources and that there exists genuine dynamical correlations
> at 200 GeV as well as 2.76 TeV deviates from independent superposition.
> Therefore, I think claiming that "STAR 200 GeV and ALICE 2.76 TeV follow
> power law" might be misleading and needs to be fixed on the slides.
>
> Warm regards,
> Som
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 8:38 AM Rutik Manikandhan via Star-cf-l
> <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
> Hello Conveners,
>
> Here is the updated version of the talk:
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/WWND_2024_ver_2.pdf
>
> Best,
> Rutik Manikandhan
> PhD Candidate, Experimental Nuclear High Energy Group
> Physics Dept.
> University of Houston
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 9:10 AM Rutik Manikandhan
> <manikandhan.rutik AT gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Conveners,
>
> Here is the updated version of the talk for WWND 2024.
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/WWND_2024_ver1.pdf
> Best,
> Rutik Manikandhan
> PhD Candidate, Experimental High Energy Group
> Physics Dept.
> University of Houston
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 7:51 PM Nu Xu <nxu AT lbl.gov> wrote:
> Hi Rutik,
>
> I read your draft already but did not write to you because we will discuss
> on Thursday.
> Regards,
> Nu
>
> > On Feb 4, 2024, at 5:27 PM, Rutik Manikandhan
> > <manikandhan.rutik AT gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Nu,
> > Could you please review my talk for WWND?
> > Thank you!
> > Best,
> > Rutik Manikandhan
> > PhD Candidate, Experimental High Energy Group
> > Physics Dept.
> > University of Houston
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: webmaster--- via Star-cf-l <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> > Date: Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 2:18 PM
> > Subject: [Star-cf-l] STAR presentation by Rutik Manikandhan for WWND 2024
> > submitted for review
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> >
> >
> > Dear star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
> >
> > Rutik Manikandhan (manikandhan.rutik AT gmail.com) has submitted a material
> > for
> > a review, please have a look:
> > https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/66691
> >
> > Deadline: 2024-02-11
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> Thanking You,
>
> Yours Sincerely,
> Somadutta Bhatta,
> Relativistic Heavy Ion Group,
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