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  • From: Jiangyong Jia <jiangyong.jia AT stonybrook.edu>
  • To: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Jiangyong Jia for Initial Stages 2021 submitted for review
  • Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 12:49:24 -0400

Hi, Prithwish,

Thanks you, I have uploaded a few version including all your comments.
My answer to your question is below.
Cheers,
Jiangyong

On 9/23/20 10:49 AM, Prithwish Tribedy wrote:
> Hi Jiangyong,
>   Nice abstract. This is a very promising but challenging analysis. I
> agree with ShinIchi on following up a few things regarding the
> analysis, in particular a closure test to demonstrate the efficiency
> correction works for higher order moments of pt-fluctuations and vn-pT
> correlation. It is essential since Gary has been arguing for a long
> time that correction of <pT> fluctuations is challenging & does not
> work -- let's get make sure we resolve this (what he did vs. what's
> new that we're doing now) before showing the results outside.
>
What is measured in our analysis is dynamical multi-particle correlation
(i.e factorial cumulants), which is different from previous study based
on standard cumulants that include self correlations therefore
statistical fluctuations.  These two are different physical quantities, 
but we all know that the factorial cumulants are less susceptible to
detector effects.  Having said that, indeed there are several checks
that can be done by us.

> Following are my comments, with these includes I sign off your abstract.
>
> ubiqutous phonomina --> ubiquitous phenomenon
>
> for atomic nuclei --> for most nuclei
>
> everywhere change: "beween" --> "between"
>
> the deformation has quadrupole shape --> the deformation has a
> quadrupole shape
>
> with axial and reflection symmetry --> that is axially and refection
> symmetric
>
> Collisions of deformed nucleus leads --> Collisions of deformed
> nucleus lead
>
> Significant differences between mean, --> Significant differences for
> mean,
> "between" is repeated in the sentence.
>
> sknewness --> skewness
>
> is used to provide a first estimate of the deformation parameter -->
> "can be used to provide direct experimental constraints on β for
> Uranium nuclei"
> or
> "provides novel ways to constrain β for Uranium nuclei in heavy ion
> collisions"
>
> Somewhere it would be good to mention "we compare to state-of-the-art
> model calculations".
>
> Best,
> Prithwish
>
>
>
>
> On 2020-09-22 17:55, Jiangyong Jia via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>> Hi Shinichi,
>>
>> Chunjian will request preliminary for his DNP meeting talk,  this
>> abstract is based on what will be shown in that DNP talk.
>>
>> The efficiency has been applied in the analysis. The momentum
>> resolution effect should be partially accounted for efficiency
>> correction.
>>
>> But we could further check momentum resolution effect with existing
>> embedding sample later.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jiangyong
>>
>> On 9/22/20 3:19 PM, ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Jiangyong
>>> I would sign off your nice abstract. Is this based on the results
>>> being discussed by Chunjiang in PWG these days? So we would
>>> need to make this as preliminary for the meeting. Did we already
>>> talk
>>> about the effect on the efficiency and/or momentum resolution etc?
>>> Did we see any effect coming from the experimental measurement?
>>> Can we do anything with embedding? Or some full event simulation?
>>> I’m sorry, if we have discussed this in the PWG, I might not
>>> remember.
>>> Best regards, ShinIchi
>>>
>>>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 21:39, webmaster--- via Star-fcv-l
>>>> <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
>>>>
>>>> Jiangyong Jia (jjia AT bnl.gov) has submitted a material for a
>>>> review, please
>>>> have a look:
>>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/52112
>>>>
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