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Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Niseem Magdy Abdelwahab Abdelrahman for ISMD2021 submitted for review
- From: ShinIchi Esumi <esumi.shinichi.gn AT u.tsukuba.ac.jp>
- To: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Niseem Magdy Abdelwahab Abdelrahman for ISMD2021 submitted for review
- Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:12:30 +0900
Dear Niseem
It could be informative, if you could plot "v2,3,4 vs centrality” on top of
the
plot ”a2,3,4 vs centrality” at the bottom-left of page 3 with some scaling
constant (better to be common for all the orders) in order to show the
centrality dependent shape (which does not have to be in the talk, maybe
in the analysis note later).
The top-left formula of page 3 does include offset parameter a0^pT, which
also seems to show a possibly interesting centrality dependence, that you
could consider showing (maybe in the analysis note...)
I was still thinking about the point I raised yesterday in the PWG related to
above points, how we can define the an^pT parameter to be able to compare
this with vn. Since G2 is defined as pT square after subtracting the baseline
that is the average pT square, so that the a0^pT parameter is a kind of
measure of "non-flow" with a dimension of (GeV/c)^2 and an^pT parameters
are the measure of "flow" with a dimension of (GeV/c).
G2’ = G2 / baseline
= (pT_correlation - baseline) / baseline
If we think about using modified G2’ as above in stead of your current G2,
one can plot
(1) an^pT/<pT>, which is more comparable definition to the "non-flow
subtracted vn”,
and/or (2) an^pT/sqrt(baseline + a0^pT), where the baseline is the average pT
square,
this is could even be more reasonable to be compared with vn measurement.
In this definition, (1)"non-flow subtracted vn" is even larger the other one
(2),
which is similar to the difference between reference fitting(or
c1_subtraction) and
template fittings for the small system vn analysis.
How is sigma_delta_eta(G2) defined? Is this defined as RMS or Gaussian
fitting
of G2(delta_eta) distribution ? How did you treat the baseline that we see in
G2 as
a function of delta_eta? I remember we’ve discussed this sometime ago in the
PWG,
but not yesterday. The baseline could also be defined from a0^pT parameter
from
azimuthal fitting at large delta_eta or even in 2D... The sigma (or RMS)
would largely
be affected by the method how we define the baseline, so we need to make sure
what we do and what we observe.
Related to this, several different cuts on delta_phi to look at delta_eta
shape, as well
as, several different cuts on delta_eta to look at delta_phi shape, would be
important,
2D analysis could even be better as we discussed at the end of PWG yesterday.
Best regards, ShinIchi
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Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Niseem Magdy Abdelwahab Abdelrahman for ISMD2021 submitted for review,
ShinIchi Esumi, 07/08/2021
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Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Niseem Magdy Abdelwahab Abdelrahman for ISMD2021 submitted for review,
Niseem, 07/08/2021
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Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Niseem Magdy Abdelwahab Abdelrahman for ISMD2021 submitted for review,
ShinIchi Esumi, 07/09/2021
- Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Niseem Magdy Abdelwahab Abdelrahman for ISMD2021 submitted for review, Niseem, 07/09/2021
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Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Niseem Magdy Abdelwahab Abdelrahman for ISMD2021 submitted for review,
ShinIchi Esumi, 07/09/2021
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Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Niseem Magdy Abdelwahab Abdelrahman for ISMD2021 submitted for review,
Niseem, 07/08/2021
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