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  • From: tc88qy <tc88qy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
  • To: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] QM2023 Preliminary Request: J/Psi global spin alignment relative to ZDC event plane
  • Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2023 21:02:25 +0800

Hi Diyu and all
First of all, I want to bring it up that every people at STAR have the right to express his/her concern about any analysis.
I also working on the same data and the same topic. The student Dandan and I also did the J/psi polarization measurement by using exact the same data set. The only different between spin alignment and polarization measurement is the different reference z-axis. Dandan's results will be present at the coming quark matter conference and got approved by HP pwg.
This two analysis have very similar method. The concern I bring it up because we have encountered such problem in the J/psi polarization measurement. And from you comparison between crystal-ball and guassian function, it already prove that the yield extraction will affect the final results. By just changing the signal function, the rho00 central value changes are comparable with statistic uncertainty in Ru+Ru 40-80%.
I did not know how did you do the fitting. The experience we have is that J/psi shape (crystal-ball function) can not take as a free parameter in the fitting.
The fitting range of 2.6-3.6 GeV/c is a litter big narrow. There is about 20-30% of J/psi yields are below 3 GeV/c2. Like in the pp system, J/psi bin counting range is 2.7-3.3 GeV/c2 at STAR. You should extend your fitting range to lower mass range, so that it will have a better control on residual background.

Qian Yang

On 2023-08-31 18:11, dshen via Star-fcv-l wrote:
Regardless of wether we should show J/Psi at QM, as the author I feel
my duty to defend the reliability of my plot.
So I checked with crystalball function instead of a simple Gaussian
function. The variation is small.
I acknowledge this plot can be improved in the future, but I don't
think the physics message could be wrong (no J/Psi spin alignment
relative to ZDC plane is observed).
I am a careful people, no more no less.

Thanks,
Diyu


On 2023-08-28 23:41, dshen wrote:
Dear Conveners,

Here are our preliminary request for J/Psi spin alignment measurement
relative to 1st order ZDC event plane.
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/JPsiPreliminaryRequest.pdf

Thanks,
Diyu

On 2023-08-23 14:24, Sooraj Radhakrishnan via Star-fcv-l wrote:
Hi Gavin,
These are nice results and quite interesting. I have a question on
the rapidity dependence. The observed rapidity dependence is quite
strong, and also the value of rho_00 for y < 0.5 is quite close to
1/3. I see that for efficiency correction you use a flat distribution
in rapidity. At these energies is this a reasonable distribution to
use? Do you have any systematics on the impact of the rapidity
distribution used on efficiency evaluation?

For the theory calculation, is this the same model as in the nature
paper? Could you add the reference? Are there any assumptions in
getting the rapidity dependence? Why wouldnt we see the spin-alignment
at mid-rapidity, and see large values at forward rapidity? Shouldn't
the physics causing spin alignment be present at mid-rapidity too? I
see on your S33 the explanation that the values are linked to motion
of the particle. Is this a trivial kinematic effect? The px, py, pz
here are in lab frame?

thanks
Sooraj

On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 9:06 PM Gavin Wilks via Star-fcv-l
<star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:

Dear FCV Convenors,

My preliminary request for QM2023 φ-meson global spin alignment
analysis can be found here:

https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/userfiles/6551/PreliminaryRequest_QM2023_FoldedRapidity.pdf

Best,
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