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  • Subject: Re: [[Star-fcv-l] ] [Starpapers-l] Notes for PWGC preview (03/15/2024): Elliptic flow of strange and multi-strange hadrons in isobar collisions at √sNN = 200 GeV at RHIC
  • Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2024 18:19:52 +0800

Dear Priyanshi, PAs,

Thanks for preparing the responses to the suggestions from PWGC. They look good to me.
Did you posted/prepared a paper draft? Please circulate them as well to the list when ready.

Thanks and regards,
Subhash

On 2024-07-23 12:11 AM, psinha wrote:
Dear Convenors and All,

After the PWGC preview, we have prepared the replies to the PWGC
comments and suggestions. Please find below the link to the replies,
updated webpage and analysis note.

PWGC comment reply:
https://www.star.bnl.gov/protected/bulkcorr/vipul/IsobarFlow/WebPage/pwgcreview/Replies_PWGCpreview.v1.pdf

Webpage:
https://www.star.bnl.gov/protected/bulkcorr/vipul/IsobarFlow/WebPage/index.html

Analysis Note:
https://www.star.bnl.gov/protected/bulkcorr/vipul/IsobarFlow/WebPage/analysisnote/AnalysisNote_EllipticFlow_Isobar200GeV_v2.pdf

Kindly let us know if you have any comments and suggestions.

Thanks and regards,
Priyanshi Sinha (for the PAs)

On 2024-03-16 01:22, Sooraj Radhakrishnan via Starpapers-l wrote:
Date: 03/15/2024
Participants: Chitrasen Jena, Priyanshi Sinha, Vipul Bairathi, Ting
Lin, Xiaoxuan Chu, Nu Xu, Prithwish Tribedy, Subhash Singha, Isaac
Mooney, Nihar Sahoo, Yi Yang, Shuai Yang, Yue Hang Leung, Zaochen Ye,
ShinIchi Esumi, Sooraj Radhakrishnan
Title: Elliptic flow of strange and multi-strange hadrons in isobar
collisions at √sNN = 200 GeV at RHIC

Target journal: Phys. Rev. C

Proposal page:
https://www.star.bnl.gov/protected/bulkcorr/vipul/IsobarFlow/WebPage/

Presentation:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/psinha/PWGC-preview-v2-multi-strange-hadrons-isobar
The PWGC panel previewed the paper proposal from FCV PWG. The panel
found that the analysis is mature and results are important and
interesting, and the paper should move forward. The journal choice was
also found to be appropriate. The following points were discussed.
Q: The predictions for the ratio of the initial geometry asymmetry
between the two isobars is much larger the measured ratio of charged
hadron v2 between the two systems (shown on S2). Why is this so? Also,
why is there a non monotonous centrality dependence for the ratio?

A: These are early predictions. Newer calculations agree better with
the measured v2 ratio. Non-monotonous centrality dependence could be
from interplay of difference in multiplicity and difference in
deformation

Q: The variations in cuts are rather small. This may not reflect the
range of variation of your systematic uncertainty. So dividing by
sqrt(12) could be under-estimating the error. Could vary the cuts over
a wider range and see if you are capturing the range of variation

A: Will evaluate and update
Q: Do you have a table quantifying the magnitude of systematic
uncertainties from various sources?

A: Not in today's presentation. But have it in the presentations made
to PWG previously. Can include in the analysis note
Q: Can you extend the pT dependent v2 measurements to higher pT?

A: The uncertainties get large beyond the bins shown in the plot.
Will see if its possible to measure for higher pT bins

C: Could show for some of the particles where statistics is good

A: Yes, will do
Q: On S18 (Fig.11), please zoom in the y-range for the ratio plots for
better readability

A: Yes, will do
Q: The ratio shown on S19 (Fig.12), for eg for K0s, shows enhancement
only above pT = 2 GeV/c. In this case can it be concluded that the
enhancement is from system size dependence of collectivity? Could be
from other effects

A: We don't have a clear answer for it. Will investigate further

C: Could calculate the eccentricity scaled v2 and compare between
different systems. This might help to better evaluate the system size
dependence

A: Yes, will do

Q: For Rcp, we see a clear system size dependence. Why it is not so
strong for v2

A: v2 depends more on the event shape than Rcp

Q: Lambda v2 clearly deviates systematically from the NCQ scaling
(S17). Do we see similar trend in Au+Au?

A: In Au+Au also we see that overall NCQ scaling holds within 10-15%.
Will check the behavior of Lambda in Au+Au

C: You see similar deviation for both Lambda and Lambda_bar

A: Yes, will check further and also in Au+Au
Q: Do you have model comparison to the v2 ratios (S18)?

A: Model calculations become challenging for different particles as
the error bars are large

Q: Can you compare to the ratio of initial eccentricities?

Q: Yes, will check that
Q: The deviations of the AMPT model calculations from data are
significant, particularly for K0s and Lambda (S20). So cannot say
models describe data

A: Yes, will modify the conclusions accordingly

C: The large centrality range used could wash out effects of
deformation difference. Could try comparison for more central
collisions

Q: Do you have AMPT calculations without string melting? Is there a
difference between the two modes?

A: No, we have the calculations only with string melting. Will do

Q: For the high pT bins (S15), do you have an estimate of the non-flow
contributions? The high pT bins particularly in peripheral centrality
seem to be dominated by non-flow

A: We don't have an evaluation of the non flow. Will do the evaluation


--

Sooraj Radhakrishnan

Research Scientist,
Department of Physics

Kent State University
Kent, OH 44243

Physicist Postdoctoral AffiliateNuclear Science Division
Lawrence Berkeley National Lab
MS70R0319, One Cyclotron Road
Berkeley, CA 94720
Ph: 510-495-2473 [1]

Email: skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov


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