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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time
- From: Tristan Protzman <tlp220 AT lehigh.edu>
- To: Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
- Cc: STAR HardProbes PWG <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time
- Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 10:17:10 -0400
Hi Nihar,
I have updated the slides with your comments: Preliminary Figure Request: Azimuthal Anisotropy of Jets in √(s_NN )=200 GeV Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr Collisions (bnl.gov)
1) If I look at your Slide#14 jet v2 plot, the systematic uncertainty
bands for 1st and 3rd bins are relatively tiny compared to other bins.
Generally systematic uncertainty should show a continuous variation
throughout the bins. Hence I suggest to use the 2nd bin's sys
uncertainty for 1st bin and average value of 2nd and 4th's sys
uncertainty for 3rd bins. For future we can discuss and work on it.
Same for the plot in slide#15.
bands for 1st and 3rd bins are relatively tiny compared to other bins.
Generally systematic uncertainty should show a continuous variation
throughout the bins. Hence I suggest to use the 2nd bin's sys
uncertainty for 1st bin and average value of 2nd and 4th's sys
uncertainty for 3rd bins. For future we can discuss and work on it.
Same for the plot in slide#15.
I have made this change.
2) SLide#14 and 15 płot, Please include inside each figure "No jet
pT-correction applied".
pT-correction applied".
Sure, I had removed it since I thought it was redundant with the labeling of the x-axis as p_{T, jet}^{reco, ch} but I have no issue including this label.
THis is a very nice study on two extreme cases for jet v2 values.
But there is one point I want to make here (that I forgot to discuss
yesterday's meeting) that we need to check this study when you increase
for jet R > 0.2; probably this we can discuss after HQ.
But there is one point I want to make here (that I forgot to discuss
yesterday's meeting) that we need to check this study when you increase
for jet R > 0.2; probably this we can discuss after HQ.
Certainly, we wanted to start with R=0.2 jets since we expected it to be the simplest to understand the background and such. As we vary the parameter space I plan to continue to come back to this toy model and verify that we still understand the behavior.
Let us know when you finish this and update all your sys. uncertainties.
Certainly, my jobs are about 15% complete.
Cheers,
Tristan
On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 9:21 AM Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi Tristan,
Great, it looks good.
Two suggestions on your results.
1) If I look at your Slide#14 jet v2 plot, the systematic uncertainty
bands for 1st and 3rd bins are relatively tiny compared to other bins.
Generally systematic uncertainty should show a continuous variation
throughout the bins. Hence I suggest to use the 2nd bin's sys
uncertainty for 1st bin and average value of 2nd and 4th's sys
uncertainty for 3rd bins. For future we can discuss and work on it.
Same for the plot in slide#15.
2) SLide#14 and 15 płot, Please include inside each figure "No jet
pT-correction applied".
if I find more comment and suggestion, I will let you know.
Remaining comments inline.
On 2022-10-07 05:31, Tristan Protzman via Star-hp-l wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have updated my preliminary figure request slides with the feedback
> I received this morning: Preliminary Figure Request: Azimuthal
> Anisotropy of Jets in √(s_NN )=200 GeV Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr Collisions
> (bnl.gov) [2]
>
> Most notably, I verified the behavior of the toy model for both zero
> and non-zero flow. Using the hard core framework, the appropriate
> values are recovered. This is shown on slide 22.
>
THis is a very nice study on two extreme cases for jet v2 values.
But there is one point I want to make here (that I forgot to discuss
yesterday's meeting) that we need to check this study when you increase
for jet R > 0.2; probably this we can discuss after HQ.
> I have also used the variation of the background modulation as the
> dominant systematic uncertainty, shown on the updated main figure
> (slide 14). Details of this are on slide 23, but they are determined
> by the average change in a point's value by varying the background
> modulation by +- 0.02.
this is good.
> The jobs to study the effects of throwing out
> 4% of tracks are submitted, but have been sitting idle in the queue
> all day unfortunately.
>
Let us know when you finish this and update all your sys. uncertainties.
Cheers
Nihar
> Cheers,
> Tristan
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 1:10 PM Yi Yang via Star-hp-l
> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot, Rachael!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Yi
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 11:54 PM Rachael Botsford <rab420 AT lehigh.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/rbotsford/DNP-2022-First-Draft
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 10:21 AM Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rachael,
>>
>> Could you please put your slides to the drupal and send the link to
>> us? Thanks a lot.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Yi
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 2:58 AM Rachael Botsford via Star-hp-l
>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I would like to present a draft of my talk for the DNP.
>> Thanks,
>> Rachael
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 12:30 PM Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Hello HP folks,
>>
>> We will have our regular HP-pwg meeting this Thursday (6th Oct) at
>> 10
>> AM BNL time. Let us know if you want to present or update your
>> analysis.
>>
>> HP working group weekly meeting info:
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Regards,
>> Barbara, Yi, Sooraj, and Nihar
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[Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Nihar Sahoo, 10/04/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Rachael Botsford, 10/04/2022
- Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time, Grant McNamara, 10/05/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Yi Yang, 10/06/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Rachael Botsford, 10/06/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Yi Yang, 10/06/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Tristan Protzman, 10/06/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Nihar Sahoo, 10/07/2022
- Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time, Tristan Protzman, 10/07/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Nihar Sahoo, 10/07/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Tristan Protzman, 10/06/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Yi Yang, 10/06/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Rachael Botsford, 10/06/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] HP-pwg meeting Thursday (6th Oct) 10 AM, BNL time,
Rachael Botsford, 10/04/2022
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