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  • From: Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
  • To: "Mooney, Isaac" <isaac.mooney AT yale.edu>
  • Cc: STAR HardProbes PWG <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, Barbara Trzeciak <barbara.trzeciak AT gmail.com>, Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review
  • Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 12:49:40 +0530

Thank you, Isaac.

Best
Nihar


On 2024-02-25 06:53, Mooney, Isaac wrote:
Hi Nihar,

Sorry for my delay, but for the record the slides look really nice to
me and I have no further comments.

Thanks,
Isaac

On Feb 23, 2024, at 5:15 AM, Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Thank you, Barbara. I have edited that in v3.


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Best
Nihar

On 2024-02-23 15:33, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
Sounds good now, yes, that was the confusion.
Cheers,
Barbara
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:59 AM Nihar Sahoo
<nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Barbara,
Yes, that is correct way to say and that is what I mean.
I think "p+Au vs. Au+Au" makes the confusion. I will remove that
sentence, instead use the following,
"pAu data help to quantify the CNM effect in AuAu collisions."
Let me know what do you think.
Best
Nihar
On 2024-02-23 15:10, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
Hi Nihar,
I think the theory CNM models compare to pA data, so what we need
are
precise data in these small systems.
Then the CNM effects can be factorized (at least most of them at
mid-rapidity) to quantify the CNM effects in AA collisions, and
distatagle in this way the hot medium effects.
Cheers,
Barbara
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:33 AM Nihar Sahoo
<nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Barbara,
What I mean here that to have better model of the CNM effects,
Theorist
need a comparison between pAu and Au+Au collisions.
Please see summary of our STAR paper

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"... to quantify the CNM effects experienced by the J/ψ meson in
p+Au
collisions."
Best
Nihar
On 2024-02-23 13:44, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
Hi Nihar,
thanks, I have one more question:
- s7: "p+Au vs. Au+Au: Comparison helps to quantify the CNM
effect" -
I don't think I understand how we quantify CNM effects by the
comparison ?
Cheers,
Barbara
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 8:36 AM Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Nihar.
I don't have any further comments, thanks a lot.
Cheers,
Yi
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 1:20 PM Nihar Sahoo
<nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Barbara and Yi,
Thank you for your fine tuning comments and suggestions. I
have

implemented those.

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Barbara's following comment:
s6: I would remove this slide and add the new polarization
results,
I know you and Rongrong suggested me to include new Jpsi
polarization
results, but I find my self a bit uncomfortable to include
that

result
and also time constraint to explain the result. So I would
prefer

not
to include. Nasim is presenting pp published results.
Thank you
Nihar
On 2024-02-23 08:39, Yi Yang wrote:
Hi Nihar,
Thanks a lot for the updated version. I agree with Barbara's
additional comments.
Cheers,
Yi
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 6:33 PM Nihar Sahoo
<nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
wrote:
Hello Yi,
Thank you for your comments. I have implemented all your
comments

and
modified my slides a bit in version-2.

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Please have a look.
Thank you
Nihar
On 2024-02-22 08:50, Yi Yang wrote:
Hi Nihar,
Thanks a lot for the nice slides.
I have some minor suggestions on v1 for your consideration.
- page 2: baryon density QCD medium --> baryon density in
QCD

medium
I would indicate ccbar is J/psi and bbbar is
Upsilon
(probably everyone knows that)
- page 6: The reference should be "Phys. Lett. B797 (2019)
134917"
(the one you put is for RpAu)
- page 8: Probably you can also consider to show
Ziyue/Te-Chuan's

new
results here since it still slightly improves the
statistics

in
high
pT.
- page 10: I would show the Psi(2S) signal (mass plot)
instead

of
the
thermometer on the right, but just a suggestion.
- page 15 and 16: It would be good to indicate 200 GeV
collision

energy
I understand you only have 15 mins, but I would think
adding

Upsilon
in isobar and J/psi at very low pT would be good in the
talk.

Cheers,
Yi
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:12 AM Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Barbara and Rongrong,
Thank you two for your nice comments.
Based on your comments and suggestion, I modified and
restructured

my
presentation.
This is a 15min presentation; a few topics I do not add
due

to
time
constraint.

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Please have a look.
Thank you
Nihar
On 2024-02-21 03:51, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
Hi Nihar,
Please find below a few comments from my side.
- Add references to the published results
- s2: Following up on Rongrong's comment, I would even
remove

the
thermometer picture from there. We know it's a very
simplified

picture, and I don't think it's needed for this expert
audience.

By the QGP thermalization I guess you mean the QGP
temperature.

But
again, one needs to be careful here, it's not only the
static

Debye
screening but the dynamical processes play a role.
And instead of the heavy flavor motivation that you have
now,

you
can
say here that there are different process that influence
quarkonium
production: dissociation (both static and dynamical),
regeneration

+
cold nuclear matter effects
- s9: remove "Smaller charm production rate at RHIC"
- s10: Title: I guess you want to emphasise here isobar
collision

results - I would change the title. The Au+Au results you
either

show
on the previous slides or are already old.
And I would add here (or add a slide before this one)
motivating

studies in smaller isobar collisions, e.g.: study
dependence

of
hot
nuclear medium effects on medium size and energy density.
And I would use here a simpler plot that we have, without
the

LHC
data.
- s10: "or/and charm flow in QGP at RHIC" - you mean no
or

small
flow
?
- s11: I would suggest adding the J/psi polarization in
isobar

collisions. If you don't have time, I think it might be
more

interesting in this workshop than the rho00 result.
- s12: suppression in heavy-ion collisions- > sequential
suppression
in heavy-ion collisions at RHIC
- s12: remove "Confirms QGP thermalization and Debye
screening

in
QGP", I suggest "QGP thermal properties"
- I'm not sure what you want to say with the second
bullet,

it's
quite
generic statement
Cheers,
Barbara
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:19 PM Ma, Rongrong via
Star-hp-l

<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Nihar
Thanks for updating your slides. I have few more
comments

for
your
consideration:
Slide 1: change the title to "Recent quarkonium results
in

..."
Slide 2:
- here you show the thermometer picture and mention "
Debye

screening". However, you do not really explain what they
are.

The
second bullet reads more like an open HF introduction.
- Given the realization of imaginary part of the
potential,

I
think
it is better to say dissociation in general, which
includes

both
static ("Debye screening") and dynamic processes. At
least,

you
should mention dynamical dissociation along with Debye
screening.

- Throughout the presentation, you mention a few times
about

"QGP
thermalization". Could you elaborate how one connects
quarkonium

suppression with QGP thermalization?
- For Nasim's talk, I think it is better to be titled
"quarkonia

in
p+p"
- I think QGP usually stands for Quark-Gluon Plasma
Slide 3:
- since you do not show any open HF results, I do not
think

you
need
the HFT picture
- Forward Silicon Track -> FST
- Forward EMCal and HCal -> FCS
Slide 8
- This slide reads like an introduction slide for
quarkonia,

which
should be moved to slide 2?
- charm quark dissociation -> quarkonia dissociation
Slide 9: I feel this slide should go together with slide
4

which
also discusses about energy dependence
Slide 10: it is not clear what you want to say about the
left

figure. The energy dependence has been discussed
earlier.

If
you
want to focus on the system size dependence, I have a
version

of
the
figure with only 200 GeV collision systems:

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Also it is probably better to split this slide into two.
Slide 11: our vector meson spin alignment paper
concluded

that
the
QGP's global angular momentum, as observed in Lambda
polarization,

actually contributes very little to the observed vector
meson

spin
alignment. One possible origin is the strong force
field,

which
applies to phi meson and should also apply to Jpsi. This
is

a
main
motivation to measure Jpsi spin alignment, I think.
Best
Rongrong
On Feb 17, 2024, at 1:50 PM, Nihar Sahoo
<nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>

wrote:
Hello Rongrong,
Yes, you are correct. I was diverted a bit from the
theme

of
this
workshop.
Ok, I corrected those with a discussion of J/psi RAA and
v2

from
Isobar.

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Thank you
Nihar
On 2024-02-16 22:14, Ma, Rongrong wrote:
Hello Nihar
The invitation is intended for presenting recent
quarkonium

results
in
heavy-ion collisions at STAR since it is a quarkonium
workshop.

So,
I
think it is probably not so relevant to present open HF
results

(slides 9-11). Instead, you can consider talking about
Jpsi

and
Upsilon Raa, Jpsi v2, Jpsi polarization in Isobar, for
example.

Thanks.
Best
Rongrong
On Feb 14, 2024, at 5:33 AM, Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
<Star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello HP-pwg,
This is an invited talk from startalk to present at
QWG2024

at
Mohali, India, on "Recent heavy flavor results in heavy
ion

collisions at STAR".
It would be great to have comment/feedback from hp-pwg.
Please

have
a look.
Thank you
Nihar
On 2024-02-14 15:57, webmaster--- via Star-talks-l
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[1] https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/presentations/QWG-2024/Recent-heavy-flavor-results-heavy-ion-collisions-STAR
[2] https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://arxiv.org/pdf/2110.09666.pdf__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!Ff-We7J6aFygxPoFX9HwoUUSoBzXGr-5k4bcPHaH_W-AB2X8cnaYw89MMT0ygCH9p10oiBRKCJ77_G3SjmPRR6tZcELP$
[3] https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/66782
[4] http://www.star.bnl.gov/
[5] https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/star-talks-l
[6] https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/star-hp-l
[7] https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/Jpsi_Isobar_AuAu.pdf
[8] https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://arxiv.org/pdf/2110.09666.pdf__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!EJfrInMeD1SK8gxBDi0zcozzKgUPn_GUi4buGgNggpxynAUCxZh0czYiiXAMj9XI76zlqQ_iow8FTfdYXjOOLmtlaeU-p8g$
[9] https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://arxiv.org/pdf/2110.09666.pdf__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!FsavuOSiEnfhDexVYQo3H9s4mlRI4INCzi7iknyK0IOpRs2AiMGP5Eh9LgFctVP1tXxYkPo1zeHwl_bXTMsEnGch_nxVOO0$




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