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- From: Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
- To: "Mooney, Isaac" <isaac.mooney AT yale.edu>
- Cc: STAR HardProbes PWG <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, Barbara Trzeciak <barbara.trzeciak AT gmail.com>, Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
- Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review
- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 12:49:40 +0530
Thank you, Isaac.
Best
Nihar
On 2024-02-25 06:53, Mooney, Isaac wrote:
Hi Nihar,
Sorry for my delay, but for the record the slides look really nice to
me and I have no further comments.
Thanks,
Isaac
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Thank you, Barbara. I have edited that in v3.
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Best
Nihar
On 2024-02-23 15:33, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
Sounds good now, yes, that was the confusion.
Cheers,
Barbara
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:59 AM Nihar Sahoo
<nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Barbara,
Yes, that is correct way to say and that is what I mean.
I think "p+Au vs. Au+Au" makes the confusion. I will remove that
sentence, instead use the following,
"pAu data help to quantify the CNM effect in AuAu collisions."
Let me know what do you think.
Best
Nihar
On 2024-02-23 15:10, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
Hi Nihar,
I think the theory CNM models compare to pA data, so what we need
are
precise data in these small systems.
Then the CNM effects can be factorized (at least most of them at
mid-rapidity) to quantify the CNM effects in AA collisions, and
distatagle in this way the hot medium effects.
Cheers,
Barbara
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:33 AM Nihar Sahoo
<nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Barbara,
What I mean here that to have better model of the CNM effects,
Theorist
need a comparison between pAu and Au+Au collisions.
Please see summary of our STAR paper
[2] [1] [1]have
"... to quantify the CNM effects experienced by the J/ψ meson in
p+Au
collisions."
Best
Nihar
On 2024-02-23 13:44, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
Hi Nihar,
thanks, I have one more question:
- s7: "p+Au vs. Au+Au: Comparison helps to quantify the CNM
effect" -
I don't think I understand how we quantify CNM effects by the
comparison ?
Cheers,
Barbara
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 8:36 AM Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Nihar.
I don't have any further comments, thanks a lot.
Cheers,
Yi
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 1:20 PM Nihar Sahoo
<nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Barbara and Yi,
Thank you for your fine tuning comments and suggestions. I
implemented those.
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Barbara's following comment:that
s6: I would remove this slide and add the new polarization
results,
I know you and Rongrong suggested me to include new Jpsi
polarization
results, but I find my self a bit uncomfortable to include
resultprefer
and also time constraint to explain the result. So I would
notcomments
to include. Nasim is presenting pp published results.
Thank you
Nihar
On 2024-02-23 08:39, Yi Yang wrote:
Hi Nihar,
Thanks a lot for the updated version. I agree with Barbara's
additional comments.
Cheers,
Yi
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 6:33 PM Nihar Sahoo
<nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
wrote:
Hello Yi,
Thank you for your comments. I have implemented all your
and
modified my slides a bit in version-2.
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Please have a look.QCD
Thank you
Nihar
On 2024-02-22 08:50, Yi Yang wrote:
Hi Nihar,
Thanks a lot for the nice slides.
I have some minor suggestions on v1 for your consideration.
- page 2: baryon density QCD medium --> baryon density in
mediumZiyue/Te-Chuan's
I would indicate ccbar is J/psi and bbbar is
Upsilon
(probably everyone knows that)
- page 6: The reference should be "Phys. Lett. B797 (2019)
134917"
(the one you put is for RpAu)
- page 8: Probably you can also consider to show
newstatistics
results here since it still slightly improves the
ininstead
high
pT.
- page 10: I would show the Psi(2S) signal (mass plot)
ofcollision
the
thermometer on the right, but just a suggestion.
- page 15 and 16: It would be good to indicate 200 GeV
energyadding
I understand you only have 15 mins, but I would think
Upsilontalk.
in isobar and J/psi at very low pT would be good in the
Cheers,restructured
Yi
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:12 AM Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Barbara and Rongrong,
Thank you two for your nice comments.
Based on your comments and suggestion, I modified and
duemy
presentation.
This is a 15min presentation; a few topics I do not add
to
time
constraint.
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Thank you
Nihar
On 2024-02-21 03:51, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
Hi Nihar,
Please find below a few comments from my side.
- Add references to the published results
- s2: Following up on Rongrong's comment, I would even
thesimplified
thermometer picture from there. We know it's a very
picture, and I don't think it's needed for this expertaudience.
By the QGP thermalization I guess you mean the QGPtemperature.
Butstatic
again, one needs to be careful here, it's not only the
Debyenow,
screening but the dynamical processes play a role.
And instead of the heavy flavor motivation that you have
youregeneration
can
say here that there are different process that influence
quarkonium
production: dissociation (both static and dynamical),
+collision
cold nuclear matter effects
- s9: remove "Smaller charm production rate at RHIC"
- s10: Title: I guess you want to emphasise here isobar
results - I would change the title. The Au+Au results youeither
showmotivating
on the previous slides or are already old.
And I would add here (or add a slide before this one)
studies in smaller isobar collisions, e.g.: studydependence
ofthe
hot
nuclear medium effects on medium size and energy density.
And I would use here a simpler plot that we have, without
LHCor
data.
- s10: "or/and charm flow in QGP at RHIC" - you mean no
smallisobar
flow
?
- s11: I would suggest adding the J/psi polarization in
collisions. If you don't have time, I think it might bemore
interesting in this workshop than the rho00 result.screening
- s12: suppression in heavy-ion collisions- > sequential
suppression
in heavy-ion collisions at RHIC
- s12: remove "Confirms QGP thermalization and Debye
inbullet,
QGP", I suggest "QGP thermal properties"
- I'm not sure what you want to say with the second
it'sStar-hp-l
quite
generic statement
Cheers,
Barbara
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:19 PM Ma, Rongrong via
<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:comments
Hello Nihar
Thanks for updating your slides. I have few more
forin
your
consideration:
Slide 1: change the title to "Recent quarkonium results
..."Debye
Slide 2:
- here you show the thermometer picture and mention "
screening". However, you do not really explain what theyare.
Thepotential,
second bullet reads more like an open HF introduction.
- Given the realization of imaginary part of the
Iincludes
think
it is better to say dissociation in general, which
bothleast,
static ("Debye screening") and dynamic processes. At
youscreening.
should mention dynamical dissociation along with Debye
- Throughout the presentation, you mention a few timesabout
"QGPquarkonium
thermalization". Could you elaborate how one connects
suppression with QGP thermalization?"quarkonia
- For Nasim's talk, I think it is better to be titled
inthink
p+p"
- I think QGP usually stands for Quark-Gluon Plasma
Slide 3:
- since you do not show any open HF results, I do not
youquarkonia,
need
the HFT picture
- Forward Silicon Track -> FST
- Forward EMCal and HCal -> FCS
Slide 8
- This slide reads like an introduction slide for
which4
should be moved to slide 2?
- charm quark dissociation -> quarkonia dissociation
Slide 9: I feel this slide should go together with slide
whichleft
also discusses about energy dependence
Slide 10: it is not clear what you want to say about the
figure. The energy dependence has been discussedearlier.
Ifversion
you
want to focus on the system size dependence, I have a
of
the
figure with only 200 GeV collision systems:
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Also it is probably better to split this slide into two.concluded
Slide 11: our vector meson spin alignment paper
thatpolarization,
the
QGP's global angular momentum, as observed in Lambda
mesonactually contributes very little to the observed vector
spinfield,
alignment. One possible origin is the strong force
whichis
applies to phi meson and should also apply to Jpsi. This
a<nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
main
motivation to measure Jpsi spin alignment, I think.
Best
Rongrong
On Feb 17, 2024, at 1:50 PM, Nihar Sahoo
themewrote:
Hello Rongrong,
Yes, you are correct. I was diverted a bit from the
ofv2
this
workshop.
Ok, I corrected those with a discussion of J/psi RAA and
from
Isobar.
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Thank you
Nihar
On 2024-02-16 22:14, Ma, Rongrong wrote:
Hello Nihar
The invitation is intended for presenting recent
resultsworkshop.
in
heavy-ion collisions at STAR since it is a quarkonium
So,results
I
think it is probably not so relevant to present open HF
(slides 9-11). Instead, you can consider talking aboutJpsi
andexample.
Upsilon Raa, Jpsi v2, Jpsi polarization in Isobar, for
Thanks.QWG2024
Best
Rongrong
On Feb 14, 2024, at 5:33 AM, Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
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Hello HP-pwg,
This is an invited talk from startalk to present at
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Mohali, India, on "Recent heavy flavor results in heavy
collisions at STAR".Please
It would be great to have comment/feedback from hp-pwg.
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Thank you
Nihar
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[5] https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/star-talks-l
[6] https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/star-hp-l
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- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Yi Yang, 02/22/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Nihar Sahoo, 02/23/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Yi Yang, 02/23/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Barbara Trzeciak, 02/23/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Nihar Sahoo, 02/23/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Barbara Trzeciak, 02/23/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Nihar Sahoo, 02/23/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Barbara Trzeciak, 02/23/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Nihar Sahoo, 02/23/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Mooney, Isaac, 02/24/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Nihar Sahoo, 02/25/2024
- Re: [Star-hp-l] [Star-talks-l] STAR presentation by Nihar Sahoo for QWG 2024 submitted for review, Barbara Trzeciak, 02/26/2024
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