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[Barbara Trzeciak <barbara.trzeciak AT gmail.com>]

Hi Nihar,

I sign off.

Please remove the older version of your slides.

Cheers,

Barbara

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 8:19 AM Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:

Thank you, Isaac.

Best
Nihar


On 2024-02-25 06:53, Mooney, Isaac wrote:
> Hi Nihar,
>
> Sorry for my delay, but for the record the slides look really nice to
> me and I have no further comments.
>
> Thanks,
> Isaac
>
>> On Feb 23, 2024, at 5:15 AM, Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Thank you, Barbara. I have edited that in v3.
>>
>>
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>> Best
>> Nihar
>>
>> On 2024-02-23 15:33, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
>> Sounds good now, yes, that was the confusion.
>> Cheers,
>> Barbara
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:59 AM Nihar Sahoo
>> <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Hello Barbara,
>> Yes, that is correct way to say and that is what I mean.
>> I think "p+Au vs. Au+Au" makes the confusion. I will remove that
>> sentence, instead use the following,
>> "pAu data help to quantify the CNM effect in AuAu collisions."
>> Let me know what do you think.
>> Best
>> Nihar
>> On 2024-02-23 15:10, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
>> Hi Nihar,
>> I think the theory CNM models compare to pA data, so what we need
>> are
>> precise data in these small systems.
>> Then the CNM effects can be factorized (at least most of them at
>> mid-rapidity) to quantify the CNM effects in AA collisions, and
>> distatagle in this way the hot medium effects.
>> Cheers,
>> Barbara
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:33 AM Nihar Sahoo
>> <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Hello Barbara,
>> What I mean here that to have better model of the CNM effects,
>> Theorist
>> need a comparison between pAu and Au+Au collisions.
>> Please see summary of our STAR paper
>>
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>> "... to quantify the CNM effects experienced by the J/ψ meson in
>> p+Au
>> collisions."
>> Best
>> Nihar
>> On 2024-02-23 13:44, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
>> Hi Nihar,
>> thanks, I have one more question:
>> - s7: "p+Au vs. Au+Au: Comparison helps to quantify the CNM
>> effect" -
>> I don't think I understand how we quantify CNM effects by the
>> comparison ?
>> Cheers,
>> Barbara
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 8:36 AM Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Hi Nihar.
>> I don't have any further comments, thanks a lot.
>> Cheers,
>> Yi
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 1:20 PM Nihar Sahoo
>> <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Hello Barbara and Yi,
>> Thank you for your fine tuning comments and suggestions. I
>  have
>
>> implemented those.
>
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>> Barbara's following comment:
>> s6: I would remove this slide and add the new polarization
>> results,
>> I know you and Rongrong suggested me to include new Jpsi
>> polarization
>> results, but I find my self a bit uncomfortable to include
>  that
>
>> result
>> and also time constraint to explain the result. So I would
>  prefer
>
>> not
>> to include. Nasim is presenting pp published results.
>> Thank you
>> Nihar
>> On 2024-02-23 08:39, Yi Yang wrote:
>> Hi Nihar,
>> Thanks a lot for the updated version. I agree with Barbara's
>> additional comments.
>> Cheers,
>> Yi
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 6:33 PM Nihar Sahoo
>> <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
>> wrote:
>> Hello Yi,
>> Thank you for your comments. I have implemented all your
>  comments
>
>>> and
>>> modified my slides a bit in version-2.
>
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>> Please have a look.
>> Thank you
>> Nihar
>> On 2024-02-22 08:50, Yi Yang wrote:
>> Hi Nihar,
>> Thanks a lot for the nice slides.
>> I have some minor suggestions on v1 for your consideration.
>> - page 2: baryon density QCD medium --> baryon density in
>  QCD
>
>> medium
>> I would indicate ccbar is J/psi and bbbar is
>> Upsilon
>> (probably everyone knows that)
>> - page 6: The reference should be "Phys. Lett. B797 (2019)
>> 134917"
>> (the one you put is for RpAu)
>> - page 8: Probably you can also consider to show
>  Ziyue/Te-Chuan's
>
>> new
>> results here since it still slightly improves the
>  statistics
>
>> in
>> high
>> pT.
>> - page 10: I would show the Psi(2S) signal (mass plot)
>  instead
>
>> of
>> the
>> thermometer on the right, but just a suggestion.
>> - page 15 and 16: It would be good to indicate 200 GeV
>  collision
>
>> energy
>> I understand you only have 15 mins, but I would think
>  adding
>
>> Upsilon
>> in isobar and J/psi at very low pT would be good in the
>  talk.
>
>> Cheers,
>> Yi
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:12 AM Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Hello Barbara and Rongrong,
>> Thank you two for your nice comments.
>> Based on your comments and suggestion, I modified and
>  restructured
>
>>> my
>>> presentation.
>>> This is a 15min presentation; a few topics I do not add
>  due
>
>> to
>> time
>> constraint.
>
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>> Please have a look.
>> Thank you
>> Nihar
>> On 2024-02-21 03:51, Barbara Trzeciak wrote:
>> Hi Nihar,
>> Please find below a few comments from my side.
>> - Add references to the published results
>> - s2: Following up on Rongrong's comment, I would even
>  remove
>
>> the
>> thermometer picture from there. We know it's a very
>  simplified
>
>> picture, and I don't think it's needed for this expert
>  audience.
>
>> By the QGP thermalization I guess you mean the QGP
>  temperature.
>
>> But
>> again, one needs to be careful here, it's not only the
>  static
>
>> Debye
>> screening but the dynamical processes play a role.
>> And instead of the heavy flavor motivation that you have
>  now,
>
>> you
>> can
>> say here that there are different process that influence
>> quarkonium
>> production: dissociation (both static and dynamical),
>  regeneration
>
>> +
>> cold nuclear matter effects
>> - s9: remove "Smaller charm production rate at RHIC"
>> - s10: Title: I guess you want to emphasise here isobar
>  collision
>
>> results - I would change the title. The Au+Au results you
>  either
>
>> show
>> on the previous slides or are already old.
>> And I would add here (or add a slide before this one)
>  motivating
>
>> studies in smaller isobar collisions, e.g.: study
>  dependence
>
>> of
>> hot
>> nuclear medium effects on medium size and energy density.
>> And I would use here a simpler plot that we have, without
>  the
>
>> LHC
>> data.
>> - s10: "or/and charm flow in QGP at RHIC" - you mean no
>  or
>
>> small
>> flow
>> ?
>> - s11: I would suggest adding the J/psi polarization in
>  isobar
>
>> collisions. If you don't have time, I think it might be
>  more
>
>> interesting in this workshop than the rho00 result.
>> - s12: suppression in heavy-ion collisions- > sequential
>> suppression
>> in heavy-ion collisions at RHIC
>> - s12: remove "Confirms QGP thermalization and Debye
>  screening
>
>> in
>> QGP", I suggest "QGP thermal properties"
>> - I'm not sure what you want to say with the second
>  bullet,
>
>> it's
>> quite
>> generic statement
>> Cheers,
>> Barbara
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:19 PM Ma, Rongrong via
>  Star-hp-l
>
>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Hello Nihar
>> Thanks for updating your slides. I have few more
>  comments
>
>> for
>> your
>> consideration:
>> Slide 1: change the title to "Recent quarkonium results
>  in
>
>> ..."
>> Slide 2:
>> - here you show the thermometer picture and mention "
>  Debye
>
>> screening". However, you do not really explain what they
>  are.
>
>> The
>> second bullet reads more like an open HF introduction.
>> - Given the realization of imaginary part of the
>  potential,
>
>> I
>> think
>> it is better to say dissociation in general, which
>  includes
>
>> both
>> static ("Debye screening") and dynamic processes. At
>  least,
>
>> you
>> should mention dynamical dissociation along with Debye
>  screening.
>
>> - Throughout the presentation, you mention a few times
>  about
>
>> "QGP
>> thermalization". Could you elaborate how one connects
>  quarkonium
>
>> suppression with QGP thermalization?
>> - For Nasim's talk, I think it is better to be titled
>  "quarkonia
>
>> in
>> p+p"
>> - I think QGP usually stands for Quark-Gluon Plasma
>> Slide 3:
>> - since you do not show any open HF results, I do not
>  think
>
>> you
>> need
>> the HFT picture
>> - Forward Silicon Track -> FST
>> - Forward EMCal and HCal -> FCS
>> Slide 8
>> - This slide reads like an introduction slide for
>  quarkonia,
>
>> which
>> should be moved to slide 2?
>> - charm quark dissociation -> quarkonia dissociation
>> Slide 9: I feel this slide should go together with slide
>  4
>
>> which
>> also discusses about energy dependence
>> Slide 10: it is not clear what you want to say about the
>  left
>
>> figure. The energy dependence has been discussed
>  earlier.
>
>> If
>> you
>> want to focus on the system size dependence, I have a
>  version
>
>> of
>> the
>> figure with only 200 GeV collision systems:
>
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>> Also it is probably better to split this slide into two.
>> Slide 11: our vector meson spin alignment paper
>  concluded
>
>> that
>> the
>> QGP's global angular momentum, as observed in Lambda
>  polarization,
>
>>> actually contributes very little to the observed vector
>  meson
>
>> spin
>> alignment. One possible origin is the strong force
>  field,
>
>> which
>> applies to phi meson and should also apply to Jpsi. This
>  is
>
>> a
>> main
>> motivation to measure Jpsi spin alignment, I think.
>> Best
>> Rongrong
>> On Feb 17, 2024, at 1:50 PM, Nihar Sahoo
>  <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
>
>>> wrote:
>>> Hello Rongrong,
>>> Yes, you are correct. I was diverted a bit from the
>  theme
>
>> of
>> this
>> workshop.
>> Ok, I corrected those with a discussion of J/psi RAA and
>  v2
>
>> from
>> Isobar.
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>> Please have a look.
>> Thank you
>> Nihar
>> On 2024-02-16 22:14, Ma, Rongrong wrote:
>> Hello Nihar
>> The invitation is intended for presenting recent
>  quarkonium
>
>> results
>> in
>> heavy-ion collisions at STAR since it is a quarkonium
>  workshop.
>
>> So,
>> I
>> think it is probably not so relevant to present open HF
>  results
>
>> (slides 9-11). Instead, you can consider talking about
>  Jpsi
>
>> and
>> Upsilon Raa, Jpsi v2, Jpsi polarization in Isobar, for
>  example.
>
>> Thanks.
>> Best
>> Rongrong
>> On Feb 14, 2024, at 5:33 AM, Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
>> <Star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Hello HP-pwg,
>> This is an invited talk from startalk to present at
>  QWG2024
>
>> at
>> Mohali, India, on "Recent heavy flavor results in heavy
>  ion
>
>> collisions at STAR".
>> It would be great to have comment/feedback from hp-pwg.
>  Please
>
>> have
>> a look.
>> Thank you
>> Nihar
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