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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions
- From: Elliot Lipeles <lipeles AT hep.upenn.edu>
- To: Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>
- Cc: "usatlas-hllhc-management-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-management-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, Mark Kruse <mkruse AT phy.duke.edu>, "usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions
- Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 12:11:54 -0400
Hi Elliot,
Can you transfer your answers to the Google doc?
Thanks, Mike
From: Elliot Lipeles <lipeles AT hep.upenn.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 11:54 AM
To: Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>
Cc: Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>; Thomas Schwarz <schwarzt AT umich.edu>; Hal Evans <hgevans AT indiana.edu>; Mark Kruse <mkruse AT phy.duke.edu>; usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov; usatlas-hllhc-management-l AT lists.bnl.gov
Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions
Here is are replies from me including the one on the science flowdown to trigger for HH to 4b that was in the LAr section.
There was one tricky one (below) about exploring GPUs instead of a custom ASIC for HTT. Here is what I put, but I'm very uncertain whether we want to discuss the existence of this commodity hardware back-up plan group.
- Has there be an evaluation of using commercial hardware accelerator (GPUs as one example) for track finding/fitting in the higher level trigger? Why build a custom chip?
Answer: This was investigated within ATLAS prior to the selection of HTT as a baseline. At that time, the GPU solution was significantly higher cost and impractical in terms of power consumption.
EL: Should we add that “ATLAS continues investigate commodity hardware as backup plan, but HTT is the baseline plan.”
Elliot
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:00 AM Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:
And a number of management questions answered. We'll need to read
through when everything is filled, as I added to some existing answers.
On 8/27/19 4:28 PM, Michael Tuts wrote:
> …and with an answer to the uncosted labor fraction (last question)…
>
> *From:* Thomas Schwarz <schwarzt AT umich.edu>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:48 AM
> *To:* Hal Evans <hgevans AT indiana.edu>
> *Cc:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>;
> usatlas-hllhc-management-l AT lists.bnl.gov;
> usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov; Mark Kruse
> <mkruse AT phy.duke.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [External]
> [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] FW: questions
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> There were only two questions on muons. I added my answers on top of
> Hal's. attached.
>
> Tom
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> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 9:33 AM Hal Evans <hgevans AT indiana.edu
> <mailto:hgevans AT indiana.edu>> wrote:
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> Hi Mike,
>
> To get the ball rolling, I've prepared draft answers for the
> "Systems Engineering" questions and for a few of the "General"
> questions. Comments are welcome.
>
> Cheers - Hal
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> On 8/27/19 8:42 AM, Michael Tuts wrote:
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> Hi All,
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> FYI. The ‘homework’ assignments are pretty clear but we will
> send out explicit ones shortly.
>
> Cheers, PO
>
> *From:* Tony Beasley <tbeasley AT nrao.edu> <mailto:tbeasley AT nrao.edu>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2019 10:28 PM
> *To:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net> <mailto:tuts AT pmtuts.net>
> *Cc:* Mark Coles (mcoles AT nsf.gov <mailto:mcoles AT nsf.gov>)
> <mcoles AT nsf.gov> <mailto:mcoles AT nsf.gov>
> *Subject:* questions
>
> Mike, please find attached the questions arising from the review
> team.
>
> We would like to review your responses (short) on Friday. If
> anything requires a detailed explanation, please give a short
> overview of the answer on Friday and deal with it during the
> review.
>
> If you can’t understand a question: set aside, and we’ll return
> to it during the review.
>
> If possible – please email a copy of your response doc early on
> Friday, thanks.
>
> regards.. Tony
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [External] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] FW: questions,
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions,
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions,
Hal Evans, 08/27/2019
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- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions, Elliot Lipeles, 08/29/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions,
Michael Tuts, 08/27/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions,
Elliot Lipeles, 08/27/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions,
Gustaaf Brooijmans, 08/27/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions,
Gustaaf Brooijmans, 08/28/2019
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions, Begel, Michael, 08/28/2019
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] [External] FW: questions, Elliot Lipeles, 08/29/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [External] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] FW: questions,
Michael Tuts, 08/27/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [External] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] FW: questions,
Thomas Schwarz, 08/27/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] [External] [Usatlas-hllhc-management-l] FW: questions,
Hal Evans, 08/27/2019
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