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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] QC slides for review
- From: Tim Andeen <tandeen AT utexas.edu>
- To: Andy Haas <andy.haas AT nyu.edu>, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
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- Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] QC slides for review
- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 16:52:53 -0500
Hi John, Just a reminder, I’ll be teaching during your talk tomorrow, but if there are questions I’ll be online most of the day. -Tim
On Apr 17, 2023 at 4:43:35 PM, Andy Haas <andy.haas AT nyu.edu> wrote:
Hi John,
I've added a couple bullets of more detail to my QA/QC slide. Here, as usual:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1MCdLnGynBkoLT498P19bdY7UjZnBHQyhEXkebIMqnug/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!He3incaUqOl1juOkjWSftvFruA7jSNgxqoenDP_WuxUaICABC76DwwTG5auGUa-mafTEd50qqm9_5B5_mwGBNgsvU0Hwc0XyDXmJShxV$
See you tomorrow, Andy.
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 1:17 PM John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:Hi Tim and Andy,As was discussed at the meeting with them last Friday, the NSF reviewcommittee seems quite interested in discussing QC planning. Here aresome of the relevant comments:- "the panel expressed interest in knowing about QA/QC – especiallyimpacts on vendors, and also about ATLAS’s plans for acceptance test ofitems delivered to CERN."- "We would like to request an adjustment to the review schedule nextweek to enable Paul O’Connor, Rich Abbot, and George Angeli to look atelectronics production QA/QC, testing, and verification testing upondelivery at CERN for each of the technical areas."- "The panel has concern about QA/QC risks associated with the currentsupply chain environment.Please comment on how these concerns are incorporated into ATLAS plans.Please plan to discuss COVID and consequent supply chain and laborshortage impacts on vendor QA/QC. How is ATLAS validating QA/QC at thevendors? (Please include this in the first day’s plenary presentations.)Please justify to the panel that sufficient labor has been budgeted tocarry out QC and verification tests."I propose that each L3 prepare a few dedicated QC slides, along thelines of what we already did for Cost&Schedule. Then, if and whenduring the review the "QC reviewers" appear in our breakout, we couldbring up those slides to guide the discussion.I have prepared such slides for the FEB2, and placed them at the end ofthe "regular talk" and before the "Cost&Schedule" slides. You can seemy draft version in slides 20-25 of the new version of my talk on docdb(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__atlas-2Dhllhc.docdb.bnl.gov_cgi-2Dbin_public_ShowDocument-3Fdocid-3D1574&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=a6OQCnBfULRpxoEoD2RkwAVSEd4IO_1i8mL3TUSVJiGhfekLLmBD98ei_XtLNA6G&s=Uvmun9oNlfzPWUYnkE75wvRmHwblycL1f73Te-lv7F8&e= ).I suggest Tim and Andy also prepare such slides. Some particular comments:Tim - ADC is well advanced, so will be looked to for an example ofwell-advanced QC plans. I suggest you show a summary table ofparameters measured in prep. for FDR, and say a subset (still beingfinalized) will be measured in the robotic test setup and stored in thedB. Also, have an idea of how many minutes per ASIC it will take toperform the test, and make sure the time (and manpower) you haveallocated in the RLS is adequate to get it all done as scheduledAndy - are SRTM tests going to be done at Assembler, or just at SBU?(For FEB2, we will do some tests at Assembler, like we did last time,but that might well not be worth the effort for the smaller number ofSRTM boards??) Give some idea of what sort of tests are needed toQC-qualify a board (list does not need to be final, but should beindicative). How much time per SRTM will it take to do the QC test, andmake sure the time (and manpower) you have allocated in the RLS isadequate to get it all done as scheduled.Some other questions:- any tests needed with the LASP, or SBU can just use the SRTM plus itsown Testerboard?- any plans to do some of QC-related tests elsewhere (eg. NYU)?- what "acceptance test" is needed at CERN? (for FEB2 it is basicallyjust visual inspection plus leak test)These slides would be needed for Tues. morning. Make a start of themas soon as you can, and send around a draft when you have something ready.Regards,John--______________________________________________________________________John ParsonsNevis Labs, Email: parsons AT nevis.columbia.eduColumbia University Phone: (914) 591-2820P.O. Box 137 Fax: (914) 591-8120Irvington, NY 10533 WWW: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nevis.columbia.edu/*parsons/__;fg!!P4SdNyxKAPE!CMRbo49w5aBUDiUzdbo9QJj0HZ-ECtjcaWNVXYtyRU1gmmLg8d01_2L7XUINhfQq0nzKcSJ7r2KPo5S6GVT0PDJ0DdUIAiJLiGvyFClPbJ08KA$_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l mailing listUsatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.govhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.bnl.gov_mailman_listinfo_usatlas-2Dhllhc-2Dlartl2l3-2Dl&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=a6OQCnBfULRpxoEoD2RkwAVSEd4IO_1i8mL3TUSVJiGhfekLLmBD98ei_XtLNA6G&s=aTMkY8-J998_Q5CrB_zMe__mb7HhVAvvczhcHuVrpmQ&e=_______________________________________________
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[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] QC slides for review,
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] QC slides for review,
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