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  • From: Tim Andeen <tandeen AT utexas.edu>
  • To: Andy Haas <andy.haas AT nyu.edu>, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
  • Cc: "usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] QC slides for review
  • Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 16:52:53 -0500

Hi John, Just a reminder, I’ll be teaching during your talk tomorrow, but if there are questions I’ll be online most of the day. -Tim



On Apr 17, 2023 at 4:43:35 PM, Andy Haas <andy.haas AT nyu.edu> wrote:
Hi John,
I've added a couple bullets of more detail to my QA/QC slide. Here, as usual:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1MCdLnGynBkoLT498P19bdY7UjZnBHQyhEXkebIMqnug/edit?usp=sharing__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!He3incaUqOl1juOkjWSftvFruA7jSNgxqoenDP_WuxUaICABC76DwwTG5auGUa-mafTEd50qqm9_5B5_mwGBNgsvU0Hwc0XyDXmJShxV$
See you tomorrow, Andy.

On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 1:17 PM John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu> wrote:


Hi Tim and Andy,

        As was discussed at the meeting with them last Friday, the NSF review
committee seems quite interested in discussing QC planning.  Here are
some of the relevant comments:

- "the panel expressed interest in knowing about QA/QC – especially
impacts on vendors, and also about ATLAS’s plans for acceptance test of
items delivered to CERN."

- "We would like to request an adjustment to the review schedule next
week to enable Paul O’Connor, Rich Abbot, and George Angeli to look at
electronics production QA/QC, testing, and verification testing upon
delivery at CERN for each of the technical areas."

- "The panel has concern about QA/QC risks associated with the current
supply chain environment.
        Please comment on how these concerns are incorporated into ATLAS plans.
Please plan to discuss COVID and consequent supply chain and labor
shortage impacts on vendor QA/QC. How is ATLAS validating QA/QC at the
vendors? (Please include this in the first day’s plenary presentations.)
Please justify to the panel that sufficient labor has been budgeted to
carry out QC and verification tests."

        I propose that each L3 prepare a few dedicated QC slides, along the
lines of what we already did for Cost&Schedule.  Then, if and when
during the review the "QC reviewers" appear in our breakout, we could
bring up those slides to guide the discussion.
        I have prepared such slides for the FEB2, and placed them at the end of
the "regular talk" and before the "Cost&Schedule" slides.  You can see
my draft version in slides 20-25 of the new version of my talk on docdb
(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__atlas-2Dhllhc.docdb.bnl.gov_cgi-2Dbin_public_ShowDocument-3Fdocid-3D1574&d=DwIGaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=y4qQBOsjsdgJNx-_8SvpS9786vHE4GOddPXp1ozJgWc&m=a6OQCnBfULRpxoEoD2RkwAVSEd4IO_1i8mL3TUSVJiGhfekLLmBD98ei_XtLNA6G&s=Uvmun9oNlfzPWUYnkE75wvRmHwblycL1f73Te-lv7F8&e= ).

        I suggest Tim and Andy also prepare such slides.  Some particular comments:

Tim - ADC is well advanced, so will be looked to for an example of
well-advanced QC plans.  I suggest you show a summary table of
parameters measured in prep. for FDR, and say a subset (still being
finalized) will be measured in the robotic test setup and stored in the
dB.  Also, have an idea of how many minutes per ASIC it will take to
perform the test, and make sure the time (and manpower) you have
allocated in the RLS is adequate to get it all done as scheduled

Andy - are SRTM tests going to be done at Assembler, or just at SBU?
(For FEB2, we will do some tests at Assembler, like we did last time,
but that might well not be worth the effort for the smaller number of
SRTM boards??)   Give some idea of what sort of tests are needed to
QC-qualify a board (list does not need to be final, but should be
indicative).  How much time per SRTM will it take to do the QC test, and
make sure the time (and manpower) you have allocated in the RLS is
adequate to get it all done as scheduled.
        Some other questions:
- any tests needed with the LASP, or SBU can just use the SRTM plus its
own Testerboard?
- any plans to do some of QC-related tests elsewhere (eg. NYU)?
- what "acceptance test" is needed at CERN?  (for FEB2 it is basically
just visual inspection plus leak test)

        These slides would be needed for Tues. morning.  Make a start of them
as soon as you can, and send around a draft when you have something ready.

        Regards,
                John
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