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Re: [[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] ] Fwd: draft L2 LAr talk for DOE IPR
- From: "Ma, Hong" <hma AT bnl.gov>
- To: "Xu, Hao" <haoxu AT bnl.gov>, "Parsons, John" <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>, "usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] ] Fwd: draft L2 LAr talk for DOE IPR
- Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 02:03:02 +0000
I updated the slides.
I kept slide 14/15 as the first one shows the normal operation, and the second one address the issue we have.
Best,
Hong.
From: Xu, Hao <haoxu AT bnl.gov>
Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2026 at 11:09 PM
To: Parsons, John <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>; usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; Ma, Hong <hma AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: [[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] ] Fwd: draft L2 LAr talk for DOE IPR
Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2026 at 11:09 PM
To: Parsons, John <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>; usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; Ma, Hong <hma AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: [[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] ] Fwd: draft L2 LAr talk for DOE IPR
Thanks John. I will revise the slides as you suggested.
>> - we only need phase adjustment over 25 ns, so saying 3.2 mu-s is confusing?
We don’t use BGO2 to generate calibration pulse. So multiple clock delays could be useful during data taking for flexibility or contingency cases.
Regards,
Hao
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Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2026 20:30
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Subject: Re: [[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] ] Fwd: draft L2 LAr talk for DOE IPR
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Hi Hao,
Very nice talk. I give a few comments below.
John
p. 5 - here (and elsewhere) adopt "standard" nomenclature, namely "FEB2 Production System Integration" and "Full Chain System Integration"
p. 6 - should come later, after Technical Progress
p. 7 - FEB2 dB development is in progress (what about SRTM?)
p. 13 - typo "configured"
- we only need phase adjustment over 25 ns, so saying 3.2 mu-s is confusing?
p. 14 - delete "Two FEB2 in FEC"
- "FEB2 with new cooling block undergoing leak testing"
p. 16 - I think you need to explain what the PDB is, why you need a new
one, ... (reviewers will likely not know)
- "extra work not included in 6.4.4" is problematic as is, since it seems like you are expanding the scope of the construction project. You need to explain that repurposing existing Phase 1 LTDB boards for HL-LHC is part of M&O and not part of the HL-LHC construction project
p. 19 - say "By its natures, system integration has a number of external dependencies"
p. 24 - not sure you need this slide, since I cover it in my L2 talk
p. 26 - "Need to be started in early 2027"
- typo "deliveriable"
On 5/6/26 2:18 AM, Xu, Hao wrote:
> I have uploaded my slides to docdb #1967.
> https://atlas-hllhc.docdb.bnl.gov/cgi-bin/private/ShowDocument?
> docid=1967 <https://atlas-hllhc.docdb.bnl.gov/cgi-bin/private/
> ShowDocument?docid=1967>
>
> Regards,
> Hao
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> *From:* usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov <usatlas-hllhc-
> lartl2l3-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of Ma, Hong <hma AT bnl.gov>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2026 9:47 PM
> *To:* Parsons, John <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>; usatlas-hllhc-
> lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> *Subject:* Re: [[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] ] Fwd: draft L2 LAr talk
> for DOE IPR
>
> here is my L3 talk
> https://atlas-hllhc.docdb.bnl.gov/cgi-bin/private/ShowDocument?
> docid=1966 <https://atlas-hllhc.docdb.bnl.gov/cgi-bin/private/
> ShowDocument?docid=1966>
>
> Best,
>
> Hong.
>
> *From: *usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov <usatlas-hllhc-
> lartl2l3-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of Parsons, John
> <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> *Date: *Tuesday, May 5, 2026 at 5:21 PM
> *To: *usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-
> l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> *Subject: *[[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] ] Fwd: draft L2 LAr talk for
> DOE IPR
>
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> FYI
>
> Hong/Hao, how are your L3 talks coming along? They need to get posted
> to docdb soon.
>
> John
>
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> Subject: Re: draft L2 LAr talk for DOE IPR
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 17:20:14 -0400
> From: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> To: us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> <us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, Hong Ma <hma AT bnl.gov>, Xu, Hao
> <haoxu AT bnl.gov>
> CC: Smith, Rosemarie <rsmith2 AT bnl.gov>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have uploaded an iterated version of my LAr L2 presentation
> to docdb #1961, after implementing comments from Hal/Hong/Penka.
> Regards,
> John
>
> On 4/30/26 12:27 PM, John Parsons wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have put a draft of my LAr L2 presentation for the upcoming
> DOE > IPR in docdb #1961. There are still some backup slides to fill
> out, but > the main talk is ready for review. Comments are welcome.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
>
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> ______________________________________________________________________
>
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>> - we only need phase adjustment over 25 ns, so saying 3.2 mu-s is confusing?
We don’t use BGO2 to generate calibration pulse. So multiple clock delays could be useful during data taking for flexibility or contingency cases.
Regards,
Hao
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2026 20:30
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Subject: Re: [[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] ] Fwd: draft L2 LAr talk for DOE IPR
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Hi Hao,
Very nice talk. I give a few comments below.
John
p. 5 - here (and elsewhere) adopt "standard" nomenclature, namely "FEB2 Production System Integration" and "Full Chain System Integration"
p. 6 - should come later, after Technical Progress
p. 7 - FEB2 dB development is in progress (what about SRTM?)
p. 13 - typo "configured"
- we only need phase adjustment over 25 ns, so saying 3.2 mu-s is confusing?
p. 14 - delete "Two FEB2 in FEC"
- "FEB2 with new cooling block undergoing leak testing"
p. 16 - I think you need to explain what the PDB is, why you need a new
one, ... (reviewers will likely not know)
- "extra work not included in 6.4.4" is problematic as is, since it seems like you are expanding the scope of the construction project. You need to explain that repurposing existing Phase 1 LTDB boards for HL-LHC is part of M&O and not part of the HL-LHC construction project
p. 19 - say "By its natures, system integration has a number of external dependencies"
p. 24 - not sure you need this slide, since I cover it in my L2 talk
p. 26 - "Need to be started in early 2027"
- typo "deliveriable"
On 5/6/26 2:18 AM, Xu, Hao wrote:
> I have uploaded my slides to docdb #1967.
> https://atlas-hllhc.docdb.bnl.gov/cgi-bin/private/ShowDocument?
> docid=1967 <https://atlas-hllhc.docdb.bnl.gov/cgi-bin/private/
> ShowDocument?docid=1967>
>
> Regards,
> Hao
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> *From:* usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov <usatlas-hllhc-
> lartl2l3-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of Ma, Hong <hma AT bnl.gov>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2026 9:47 PM
> *To:* Parsons, John <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>; usatlas-hllhc-
> lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> *Subject:* Re: [[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] ] Fwd: draft L2 LAr talk
> for DOE IPR
>
> here is my L3 talk
> https://atlas-hllhc.docdb.bnl.gov/cgi-bin/private/ShowDocument?
> docid=1966 <https://atlas-hllhc.docdb.bnl.gov/cgi-bin/private/
> ShowDocument?docid=1966>
>
> Best,
>
> Hong.
>
> *From: *usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov <usatlas-hllhc-
> lartl2l3-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of Parsons, John
> <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> *Date: *Tuesday, May 5, 2026 at 5:21 PM
> *To: *usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-
> l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> *Subject: *[[Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] ] Fwd: draft L2 LAr talk for
> DOE IPR
>
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>
> FYI
>
> Hong/Hao, how are your L3 talks coming along? They need to get posted
> to docdb soon.
>
> John
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: draft L2 LAr talk for DOE IPR
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2026 17:20:14 -0400
> From: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> To: us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> <us-atlas-hllhc-pmgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, Hong Ma <hma AT bnl.gov>, Xu, Hao
> <haoxu AT bnl.gov>
> CC: Smith, Rosemarie <rsmith2 AT bnl.gov>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have uploaded an iterated version of my LAr L2 presentation
> to docdb #1961, after implementing comments from Hal/Hong/Penka.
> Regards,
> John
>
> On 4/30/26 12:27 PM, John Parsons wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have put a draft of my LAr L2 presentation for the upcoming
> DOE > IPR in docdb #1961. There are still some backup slides to fill
> out, but > the main talk is ready for review. Comments are welcome.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
>
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> John Parsons
> Nevis Labs, Email: parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu
> Columbia University Phone: (914) 591-2820 P.O. Box 137
> Fax: (914) 591-8120 Irvington, NY 10533 WWW:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nevis.columbia.edu/*parsons/__;
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