Commissioning and running of sPHENIX

["Yip, Kin" <kinyip AT bnl.gov>]

Hi,

I called MCR and the Fire Dept. and they confirmed that the Fire Dept. in BNL is sending their staff to disable our HSSD in 1008.

Kin

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From: "Yip, Kin via sPHENIX-l" <sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov>

Date: 6/7/23 5:42 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: sphenix-run-l AT lists.bnl.gov, sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov

Cc: "Toldo, Frank A" <fatoldo AT bnl.gov>, "Mills, James A" <mills AT bnl.gov>

Subject: [Sphenix-l] HSSD detector disabled in sPHENIX

Hello,

Thanks to John Haggerty and Joel Vasquez's idea, I requested disabling HSSD detector to Ray Fliller (head of ESSHQ in C-AD) for sPHENIX.

And actually, he and Wolfram were just discussing it.  Anyway, from the email below, you can see that they have approved disabling HSSD in sPHENIX.  But somehow for STAR, HSSD system somehow was in STAR's ASE and they can't run without it.  So, STAR is turning of their detectors right now ... until the current "smoke problem" disappeared.

I'm not sure any of us can take credit for not having HSSD written in the ASE (Accelerator Safety Envelope) for sPHENIX 😁 But it does happen conveniently.

Kin

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Subject:	RE: smoke detectors
Date:	Wed, 7 Jun 2023 21:13:06 +0000
From:	Fliller, Raymond <rfliller AT bnl.gov>
To:	Kretschmann, Michael <kretschmann AT bnl.gov>, Daniels, Thomas A <tdaniels AT bnl.gov>, Clancy, Michael F <clancy AT bnl.gov>, Venegoni, Michael <mvenegoni AT bnl.gov>, Rosenfeld, Marcel <mrosenfe AT bnl.gov>, Bruno, Christopher <cbruno AT bnl.gov>, Stanisci, Joseph <stanisci AT bnl.gov>, Forino, Daniel <dforino AT bnl.gov>
CC:	McQueen, Michelle <pizzulli AT bnl.gov>, Fischer, Wolfram <wfischer AT bnl.gov>, Blackler, Ian <blackler AT bnl.gov>, Lee, Jeong-Hun <jhlee AT bnl.gov>, Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>

Mike, et.al.

 

    The HSSD systems in the STAR detector building are credited controls.  Provision 3.24.6 in the RHIC ASE requires one of the two HSSD systems to remain on.  Therefore, after discussions with STAR we are asking them to turn off their detector.  Once CAD has confirmed that the detector is off, and cannot be turned on, we will give approval to disable the STAR HSSD systems. 

 

    Our other HSSD systems are not credited controls.  sPHENIX has requested disabling their HSSD system – we approve this request.  Building 913 has given a supervisory alarm – and we approve the request to disable as well.  We approve all requests to disable the HSSD systems, EXCEPT 1006 and STAR at this time.

 

   I will send the approval to disable the HSSD system for the STAR detector once we ensure the detector electronics are disabled.

 

   We do plan to run RHIC except for the STAR detector. sPHENIX will be running.

 

  Should conditions deteriorate to the point that regular smoke detectors start alarms we will be turning off.

 

    

 

Ray

 

Raymond Fliller

Associate Chair for ESSHQ

Collider-Accelerator Department

Brookhaven National Laboratory

Building 911

P.O. Box 5000

Upton, NY 11973-5000

Phone: 631-344-2356

Cell: 631-960-2099

 

From: Kretschmann, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 4:29 PM
To: Daniels, Thomas A <tdaniels AT bnl.gov>; Clancy, Michael F <clancy AT bnl.gov>; Venegoni, Michael <mvenegoni AT bnl.gov>; Rosenfeld, Marcel <mrosenfe AT bnl.gov>; Bruno, Christopher <cbruno AT bnl.gov>; Stanisci, Joseph <stanisci AT bnl.gov>; Forino, Daniel <dforino AT bnl.gov>; Fliller, Raymond <rfliller AT bnl.gov>
Cc: McQueen, Michelle <pizzulli AT bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: smoke detectors

 

I called back CAD and told them B913 HSSD system in supervisory alarm. They are still discussing what to do,  I have also talked to BHSO (Seniuk) to keep him informed.

 

Michael

 

Michael Kretschmann PE MBA NYSCEO

Brookhaven National Laboratory

Fire Protection Engineering Manager

Building 902, Rm U29

P.O. Box 5000, Upton, NY 11973

(631) 344-5274 P

(631) 344-8769 F

(631) 872-9146 C 

 

 

 

From: Kretschmann, Michael <kretschmann AT bnl.gov>
Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 4:01 PM
To: Daniels, Thomas A <tdaniels AT bnl.gov>, Clancy, Michael F <clancy AT bnl.gov>, Venegoni, Michael <mvenegoni AT bnl.gov>, Rosenfeld, Marcel <mrosenfe AT bnl.gov>, Bruno, Christopher <cbruno AT bnl.gov>, Stanisci, Joseph <stanisci AT bnl.gov>, Forino, Daniel <dforino AT bnl.gov>, Fliller, Raymond <rfliller AT bnl.gov>
Cc: McQueen, Michelle <pizzulli AT bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: smoke detectors

I have spoken to CAD that I would approve the detection to be impaired in STAR  CAD will make the determination if they will want them shut down after conferring if it is written in the ACE. They will call me on their decision.

 

Michael

 

Michael Kretschmann PE MBA NYSCEO

Brookhaven National Laboratory

Fire Protection Engineering Manager

Contractor Authority Having Jurisdiction for Fire Safety

Building 902, Rm U29

P.O. Box 5000, Upton, NY 11973

(631) 344-5274 P

(631) 344-8769 F

(631) 872-9146 C 

 

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From: Daniels, Thomas A <tdaniels AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 3:45:48 PM
To: Clancy, Michael F <clancy AT bnl.gov>; Kretschmann, Michael <kretschmann AT bnl.gov>; Venegoni, Michael <mvenegoni AT bnl.gov>; Rosenfeld, Marcel <mrosenfe AT bnl.gov>; Bruno, Christopher <cbruno AT bnl.gov>; Stanisci, Joseph <stanisci AT bnl.gov>; Forino, Daniel <dforino AT bnl.gov>; Fliller, Raymond <rfliller AT bnl.gov>
Cc: McQueen, Michelle <pizzulli AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: smoke detectors

 

I reiterate, do not impair STAR until this question is resolved.

 

Thomas Daniels

Interim Deputy Director for Operations

Brookhaven National Laboratory

Upton NY, 11973

Office: 631-344-4752

Cell: 631-831-7662

tdaniels AT bnl.gov

 

 

 

From: Clancy, Michael F <clancy AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 3:45 PM
To: Daniels, Thomas A <tdaniels AT bnl.gov>; Kretschmann, Michael <kretschmann AT bnl.gov>; Venegoni, Michael <mvenegoni AT bnl.gov>; Rosenfeld, Marcel <mrosenfe AT bnl.gov>; Bruno, Christopher <cbruno AT bnl.gov>; Stanisci, Joseph <stanisci AT bnl.gov>; Forino, Daniel <dforino AT bnl.gov>; Fliller, Raymond <rfliller AT bnl.gov>
Cc: McQueen, Michelle <pizzulli AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: smoke detectors

 

I think C-AD would have to do a USI.

 

Mike

 

From: Daniels, Thomas A <tdaniels AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 3:44 PM
To: Kretschmann, Michael <kretschmann AT bnl.gov>; Venegoni, Michael <mvenegoni AT bnl.gov>; Clancy, Michael F <clancy AT bnl.gov>; Rosenfeld, Marcel <mrosenfe AT bnl.gov>; Bruno, Christopher <cbruno AT bnl.gov>; Stanisci, Joseph <stanisci AT bnl.gov>; Forino, Daniel <dforino AT bnl.gov>
Cc: McQueen, Michelle <pizzulli AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: smoke detectors

 

How can the STAR be impaired if its part of the credited control?

 

Thomas Daniels

Interim Deputy Director for Operations

Brookhaven National Laboratory

Upton NY, 11973

Office: 631-344-4752

Cell: 631-831-7662

tdaniels AT bnl.gov

 

 

 

From: Kretschmann, Michael <kretschmann AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 3:35 PM
To: Venegoni, Michael <mvenegoni AT bnl.gov>; Clancy, Michael F <clancy AT bnl.gov>; Daniels, Thomas A <tdaniels AT bnl.gov>; Rosenfeld, Marcel <mrosenfe AT bnl.gov>; Bruno, Christopher <cbruno AT bnl.gov>; Stanisci, Joseph <stanisci AT bnl.gov>; Forino, Daniel <dforino AT bnl.gov>
Cc: McQueen, Michelle <pizzulli AT bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: smoke detectors

 

The HSSD smoker detection systems in NSLS-II can be impaired since Bob Lee verified that The defection is not a accredited control. No fire watch is required.

 

The HSSD smoke detection at STAR can be impaired with my approval. No fire watch is required.

 

Michael

 

Michael Kretschmann PE MBA NYSCEO

Brookhaven National Laboratory

Fire Protection Engineering Manager

Contractor Authority Having Jurisdiction for Fire Safety

Building 902, Rm U29

P.O. Box 5000, Upton, NY 11973

(631) 344-5274 P

(631) 344-8769 F

(631) 872-9146 C 

 

 

 

From: Venegoni, Michael <mvenegoni AT bnl.gov>
Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 3:18 PM
To: Clancy, Michael F <clancy AT bnl.gov>, Daniels, Thomas A <tdaniels AT bnl.gov>, Rosenfeld, Marcel <mrosenfe AT bnl.gov>, Bruno, Christopher <cbruno AT bnl.gov>, Stanisci, Joseph <stanisci AT bnl.gov>, Forino, Daniel <dforino AT bnl.gov>
Cc: McQueen, Michelle <pizzulli AT bnl.gov>, Kretschmann, Michael <kretschmann AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: smoke detectors

Mike K can you respond please.

 

From: Clancy, Michael F <clancy AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 3:14 PM
To: Daniels, Thomas A <tdaniels AT bnl.gov>; Venegoni, Michael <mvenegoni AT bnl.gov>; Rosenfeld, Marcel <mrosenfe AT bnl.gov>; Bruno, Christopher <cbruno AT bnl.gov>; Stanisci, Joseph <stanisci AT bnl.gov>; Forino, Daniel <dforino AT bnl.gov>
Cc: McQueen, Michelle <pizzulli AT bnl.gov>
Subject: RE: smoke detectors

 

Ray Fliller said that the STAR detector smoke detectors are credited controls.  Also, if the soke detectors are life safety equipment especially in areas that are remote in building do we then need a fire watch if we turn them off?

 

Mike

 

 

 

From: Daniels, Thomas A <tdaniels AT bnl.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 3:11 PM
To: Venegoni, Michael <mvenegoni AT bnl.gov>; Rosenfeld, Marcel <mrosenfe AT bnl.gov>; Bruno, Christopher <cbruno AT bnl.gov>; Stanisci, Joseph <stanisci AT bnl.gov>; Forino, Daniel <dforino AT bnl.gov>
Cc: McQueen, Michelle <pizzulli AT bnl.gov>; Clancy, Michael F <clancy AT bnl.gov>
Subject: smoke detectors

 

Do not bypass any until we have verified they are not part of the accredited controls for that facility.

 

Thomas Daniels

Interim Deputy Director for Operations

Brookhaven National Laboratory

Upton NY, 11973

Office: 631-344-4752

Cell: 631-831-7662

tdaniels AT bnl.gov