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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24
- From: David Morrison <morrison AT bnl.gov>
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- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24
- Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 11:00:47 -0400
Hi Stefan, It is also incorrect for Kiel to ask "why sPHENIX is not concerned". We are concerned about *everything* that affects the science output of sPHENIX. This includes a concern about the effect of space charge in the TPC. Dave On 9/18/23 10:21 AM, Alexander
Bazilevsky wrote:
Hi Stefan, Ralf has calculations of the expected impact of the cross angle on polarization. I haven't seen any calculations like that from STAR people. So, they are talking qualitatively (yes, the effect may be there), but we are talking quantitatively (the effect is small). I think Ralf may give more details and/or correct my understanding. Sasha. On 9/18/23 10:09 AM, Stefan Bathe
wrote:
Hi All,
Please see Kiel’s message below. I don’t feel qualified to
answer this by myself. So I’m asking for input. But I’d like
to turn this around within 24 h.
I think the answer to the question why we are not concerned
about running polarized protons with a crossing angle is
quantitative: in principle it’s a concern, but quantitatively
we think we can live with it. But I don’t know what the actual
evidence is.
I think there’s no reasonable chance we’d switch to a zero
crossing angle except in a disaster scenario (luminosity so
low that we don’t need a crossing angle; or no tracking).
Best,
Stefan
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Hi
Stefan,
To support intensities at RHIC above 2.1e11 protons/bunch, a crossing angle at sPHENIX is needed. Is there a reason why sPHENIX is not concerned about having a crossing angle for polarized protons where STAR is? Is there a possibility that sPHENIX will change to a zero crossing angle during the run, which would limit the maximum intensity? Thank you, Kiel _______________________________________________ Sphenix-run-l mailing list Sphenix-run-l AT lists.bnl.gov https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/sphenix-run-l -- Alexander Bazilevsky Brookhaven National Laboratory, Bldg. 510D, 2-232 Upton, NY 11973 Tel: 631-344-3712 Email: shura AT bnl.gov ------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Sphenix-run-l mailing list Sphenix-run-l AT lists.bnl.gov https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/sphenix-run-l -- David Morrison Brookhaven National Laboratory phone: 631-344-5840 Physics Department, Bldg 510 C fax: 631-344-3253 Upton, NY 11973-5000 email: dave AT bnl.gov |
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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24
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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24,
Yip, Kin, 09/18/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24,
Stefan Bathe, 09/18/2023
- Re: [Sphenix-run-l] [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24, Anthony Frawley, 09/18/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24,
Liu, Chuyu, 09/19/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24,
Yip, Kin, 09/19/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24,
Rosi Reed, 09/19/2023
- Re: [Sphenix-run-l] [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24, Stefan Bathe, 09/19/2023
- Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24, Anthony Frawley, 09/19/2023
- Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24, Yip, Kin, 09/20/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24,
Rosi Reed, 09/19/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24,
Yip, Kin, 09/19/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24,
Stefan Bathe, 09/18/2023
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Re: [Sphenix-run-l] Fwd: [request for input] sPHENIX crossing angle with PP in Run24,
Yip, Kin, 09/18/2023
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