STAR Correlations and Fluctuations PWG

[li <li AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>]

Dear Hanna,
I have implemented your suggestions and tried to include physics 
interpretatios of this measurement.
As I discusse on slide#2-3; These results are mainly used to extract 
chemical freezeout praramters by theorist. So for experimental side, we 
provide all these experemental observables for constraining theory 
models.
Please find modified slides: 
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/QPT2021_ChangfengLi_v3.pdf
Regards,
Changfeng Li






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> Dear Xiaofeng,
> Thank you for your suggestion and comments.
> I have modified from 1 to 4.
> as you methioned 5, and I checked the data,sigma2 proton and sigma2 
> kaon
> are different actually.
> It seems both of them are so small and y-axis are so big. I have 
> changed
> the Y axis range to smaller,
> Now we can see clearly they are different as expected so I have modfied
> it and summary.
> This is the new slides:
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/QPT2021_ChangfengLi_v2.pdf
>
> Thank you,
> Best Regards,
> Changfeng
>
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> > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 10:17:52 +0800
> > From: Xiaofeng Luo <xfluo.star AT hotmail.com>
> > To: STAR Correlations and Fluctuations PWG <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> > Subject: Re: [Star-cf-l] STAR presentation by Changfeng Li for QPT2021
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> > Hi Changfeng,
> >
> >  ??? Nice presentation.
> >  ??? Please find my comments/suggestions below :
> >
> >  ??? 1. Slide 3, FO parameters -> Freeze-out parameters
> >
> >  ??? 2. Slide 4, need to write down the mathematical definition of the
> > off-diagonal cumulants.
> >
> >  ??? 3. Slide 5, |eta|<1.4 -> |eta|< 1,? 0.2 GeV/c -> 0.15 GeV/c
> >
> >  ??? 4. Slide 6, need to write down the number of events used in the
> > analysis.
> >
> >  ??? 5. Slide 9, I don't understand the claim : "give the same
> > results."
> >  ??? ?? ? If numerator are the same, but denominator are different. 
> > How
> > could the results are the same ?
> >  ??? ???? Please re-phrase for the corresponding discussion and also 
> > in
> > the summary.
> >
> >  ??? With those implemented, I sign off.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Best Regards,
> > Xiaofeng
> >
> > On 2021/7/19 11:08, webmaster--- via Star-cf-l wrote:
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> > > Changfeng Li (houmiuji AT 163.com) has submitted a material for a 
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> > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 10:41:52 +0800
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> > To: "=?utf-8?B?SGFubmEgUGF1bGluYSBaYnJvc3pjenlr?="
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> > Dear&nbsp;Hanna and Xiaofeng,
> > &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I
> > would like to give a presentation about pp CF in 3 GeV.
> > If possible, I would like to become the first speaker.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Chuan
> >
> >
> > &nbsp;
> > &nbsp;
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> > From: &nbsp;"Star-cf"<star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov&gt;;
> > Date: &nbsp;Mon, Jul 19, 2021 11:25 PM
> > To: &nbsp;"Star-cf"<star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov&gt;;
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> > Subject: &nbsp;[Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting July 22nd (Thursday) 9:30am
> > (BNL time)
> >
> > &nbsp;
> >
> > Dear CF PWG colleagues,
> >
> > We will have our weekly CF PWG meeting on Thursday, July 22nd, 9:30 AM
> > (BNL time).
> > If you would like to contribute, please let us know.
> > Please try to post your slides at your earliest convenient.
> > We will connect via Zoom. Please find the connection details under the
> > meeting webpage.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Best regards,
> > Hanna and Xiaofeng
> >
> > https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/luoxf/correlations-and-fluctuations
> > https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/gos/correlations-and-fluctuations-preliminary-plots&nbsp;
> >
> >
> >  Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk
> > PhD DSc Eng, Professor WUT
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> >
> > E-mail: hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl
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> From: Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk <hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl>
> To: Star-cf <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> Subject: Re: [Star-cf-l] Pe: Re: STAR presentation by Changfeng Li for
>         QPT2021 submitted for review (Xiaofeng Luo)
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> Dear Changfeng,
>
> Please find below my comment to your nice slides:
>
> Slide 1. Add Supported in part by U.S. department of Energy (don?t
> forget about their logo)
>
> Slide 2 and 3. General commen to the slide 2 and slide 3: instead of
> writing full sentences try to highlight some important points, e.g.,
> at slide 2: "STAR experiment published individual net-charge,
> net-proton, net-kaon, as well as net-Lambda, higher order diagonal
> cumulant measurements?, this can be easily skipped as below you refer
> to already published papers; the next sentence about why to measure
> correlations is very obvious, it should be said during your
> presentation, no need to keep the whole sentence. I would rather read
> why studies of these correlations help us to understand the QCD phase
> diagram.
>
> Slide 4: Explain why you study the correlation between net-proton and
> net-kaon with respect to the net-kaon fluctuations (and not
> net-proton). Add a comment what is the physical interpretation of your
> measurement.
>
> Slide 6: between -3- to 30 cm -> between - 30 cm to 30 cm
>
> Slide 7: it would be good to mention what is the reason you repeat
> analysis from Run-11 with dataset from Run-18 as already published
> data looks ok in terms of statistics.
>
> Slide 8: the same comment as one slide before. The viewer might not
> understand what is the purpose to repeat this analysis with new data
> collection.
>
> Slide 9: add the comment about the physical interpretation of these
> two correlations.
>
> Slide 10: add some comments about physical interpretations. What have
> we learned having different correlations between delta-p and delta-k?
> It would be also to mention somewhere what does it mean the
> correlation is negative. What can learn from it?
>
> Thanks,
> Hanna
>
> Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk
> PhD DSc Eng, Professor WUT
>
> E-mail: hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl
> Tel: +48 22 234 5851 (office)
>
> Address:
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> Faculty of Physics
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>
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> > dniu 20.07.2021, o godz. 11:04:
> >
> > Dear Xiaofeng,
> > Thank you for your suggestion and comments.
> > I have modified from 1 to 4.
> > as you methioned 5, and I checked the data,sigma2 proton and sigma2 
> > kaon are different actually.
> > It seems both of them are so small and y-axis are so big. I have 
> > changed the Y axis range to smaller,
> > Now we can see clearly they are different as expected so I have 
> > modfied it and summary.
> > This is the new slides: 
> > https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/QPT2021_ChangfengLi_v2.pdf
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Best Regards,
> > Changfeng
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > >   2. Re: CF PWG meeting July 22nd (Thursday) 9:30am (BNL        time)
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> > > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 10:17:52 +0800
> > > From: Xiaofeng Luo <xfluo.star AT hotmail.com>
> > > To: STAR Correlations and Fluctuations PWG <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> > > Subject: Re: [Star-cf-l] STAR presentation by Changfeng Li for 
> > > QPT2021
> > >         submitted for review
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> > > Hi Changfeng,
> > > ??? Nice presentation.
> > > ??? Please find my comments/suggestions below :
> > > ??? 1. Slide 3, FO parameters -> Freeze-out parameters
> > > ??? 2. Slide 4, need to write down the mathematical definition of the
> > > off-diagonal cumulants.
> > > ??? 3. Slide 5, |eta|<1.4 -> |eta|< 1,? 0.2 GeV/c -> 0.15 GeV/c
> > > ??? 4. Slide 6, need to write down the number of events used in the
> > > analysis.
> > > ??? 5. Slide 9, I don't understand the claim : "give the same 
> > > results."
> > > ??? ?? ? If numerator are the same, but denominator are different. 
> > > How
> > > could the results are the same ?
> > > ??? ???? Please re-phrase for the corresponding discussion and also 
> > > in
> > > the summary.
> > > ??? With those implemented, I sign off.
> > > Thank you,
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Xiaofeng
> > > On 2021/7/19 11:08, webmaster--- via Star-cf-l wrote:
> > > > Dear star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
> > > > Changfeng Li (houmiuji AT 163.com) has submitted a material for a 
> > > > review, please
> > > > have a look:
> > > > https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/55650
> > > > ---
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> > > From: "=?utf-8?B?Q2h1YW5GdQ==?=" <fuchuan AT mails.ccnu.edu.cn>
> > > To: "=?utf-8?B?SGFubmEgUGF1bGluYSBaYnJvc3pjenlr?="
> > >         <hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl>,  "=?utf-8?B?U3Rhci1jZg==?="
> > >         <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> > > Subject: Re: [Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting July 22nd (Thursday) 9:30am
> > >         (BNL    time)
> > > Message-ID: <tencent_0DB1C51C4C61443E5005F862 AT qq.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > > Dear&nbsp;Hanna and Xiaofeng,
> > > &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
> > > &nbsp;I
> > > would like to give a presentation about pp CF in 3 GeV.
> > > If possible, I would like to become the first speaker.
> > > Best regards,
> > > Chuan
> > > &nbsp;
> > > &nbsp;
> > > ------------------&nbsp;Original&nbsp;------------------
> > > From: &nbsp;"Star-cf"<star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov&gt;;
> > > Date: &nbsp;Mon, Jul 19, 2021 11:25 PM
> > > To: &nbsp;"Star-cf"<star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov&gt;;
> > > Subject: &nbsp;[Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting July 22nd (Thursday) 9:30am 
> > > (BNL time)
> > > &nbsp;
> > > Dear CF PWG colleagues,
> > > We will have our weekly CF PWG meeting on Thursday, July 22nd, 9:30 
> > > AM
> > > (BNL time).
> > > If you would like to contribute, please let us know.
> > > Please try to post your slides at your earliest convenient.
> > > We will connect via Zoom. Please find the connection details under 
> > > the
> > > meeting webpage.
> > > Thank you,
> > > Best regards,
> > > Hanna and Xiaofeng
> > > https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/luoxf/correlations-and-fluctuations
> > > https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/gos/correlations-and-fluctuations-preliminary-plots&nbsp;
> > > Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk
> > > PhD DSc Eng, Professor WUT
> > > E-mail: hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl
> > > Tel: +48 22 234 5851 (office)
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