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["Galatyuk, Tetyana Prof. Dr." <T.Galatyuk AT gsi.de>]

Hi All,

 

In this way one should use the published number 205 +- 12 MeV as presented in the QM2022 figure and indicate the fit range in the label.

I also do not know what data points of NA60 were fit? I just checked again and NA60 thermal spectrum goes to 2.5 GeV only.

Another point is NA60 plot on T_eff vs mass, where T  never goes above ~200 MeV for M>1 GeV.

 

And again to show T_effective extracted from the photon pT spectra in the same figure is not correct.

 

Figure on slide 20 of QM2022 talk https://indico.cern.ch/event/895086/contributions/4717003/attachments/2423059/4148568/Slides_T_via_Thermal_Dileptons_AuAu_STAR_ZaochenYe_QM22_v13.pdf  is more appropriate.

 

Cheers,

Tetyana   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: "Xu, Zhangbu" <xzb AT bnl.gov>
Date: Wednesday, 29. March 2023 at 20:31
To: "Galatyuk, Tetyana Prof. Dr." <T.Galatyuk AT gsi.de>, "Ma, Rongrong" <marr AT bnl.gov>, "zy35 AT rice.edu" <zy35 AT rice.edu>
Cc: "Star-dilepton-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <Star-dilepton-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "Brandenburg, Daniel" <brandenburg.89 AT osu.edu>
Subject: Re: NA60 IMR temperature

 

Hi, all: 

 

So the range from Spethz is different from our fit and different from what the claim at HP. 

I would insist that you do not change our fit. 

If they believe that our number is incorrect, publish the result in peer reviewed paper. 

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From: Star-dilepton-l <star-dilepton-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of Galatyuk, Tetyana Prof. Dr. <T.Galatyuk AT gsi.de>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 1:08:38 PM
To: Ma, Rongrong <marr AT bnl.gov>; zy35 AT rice.edu <zy35 AT rice.edu>
Cc: Star-dilepton-l AT lists.bnl.gov <Star-dilepton-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; Brandenburg, Daniel <brandenburg.89 AT osu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Star-dilepton-l] NA60 IMR temperature

 

Dear Rongrong, All,

 

Indeed we have started this discussion yesterday after the comment to the EM talk. I actually found the “official” document, which is the talks of H.J. Specht at the ECT* Workshop we organized in 2013 where these numbers were presented. We also checked with Gianluca that there is no publication of this number and therefore one shall refer to the ECT* talk, H.J.Specht, ECT* Trento  2013: please see print screen of the slide below (230 +- 10 MeV for the fit range 1.1 – 2.4 GeV). As stated already before, I also strongly recommend we use the numbers extracted by the NA60 collaboration. I also used official NA60 value when I included NA60 (and HADES) dilepton points to the QCD phase diagram and it would be not good to have different numbers.

 

One more point, also addressed already, please remove direct photon T from the figure, they have nothing to do with the true fireball T! You know well that when taking into account radial expansion velocity of the system (which you have to do when you fit pT spectrum!) will bring BOTH phenix and alice results down to ~155 MeV.

 

Cheers,

Tetyana

 

 

 

 

 

From: "Ma, Rongrong" <marr AT bnl.gov>
Date: Wednesday, 29. March 2023 at 18:32
To: "zy35 AT rice.edu" <zy35 AT rice.edu>
Cc: "Galatyuk, Tetyana Prof. Dr." <T.Galatyuk AT gsi.de>, "Star-dilepton-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <Star-dilepton-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "Brandenburg, Daniel" <brandenburg.89 AT osu.edu>
Subject: NA60 IMR temperature

 

Hello Zaochen, All

 

I talked with Gianluca Usai from NA60 today, and he showed me that the temperature from fitting IMR of 1.2-2.5 GeV/c is 230 +/- 10 MeV, which should be treated as the official number from NA60. Could you update the T vs. muB figure that you sent to me, as well as those on your preliminary figure page? We need to make sure this number if shown from now on to avoid any further complains. My talk is on Friday, so I would appreciate if you can update the figure at your earliest convenience. Thanks. 

 

Best

Rongrong

 

On Mar 28, 2023, at 12:02 PM, Zaochen Ye <zy35 AT rice.edu> wrote:

 

Dear Tetyana,

 

Please find the overleaf link of the paper in your email, and let me know if you can see it or not.

 

Best,

Zaochen

 

On Mar 28, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Galatyuk, Tetyana Prof. Dr. <T.Galatyuk AT gsi.de> wrote:

 

Dear Daniel, All,

 

also today i am blocked with HP2023.

What would be important you discuss in the meeting today and actually we had this discussion in the past already (sorry that I couldn't follow our dilepton meetings):

 

• The way T extracted for NA60 is not clear. NA60 collaborators asked to use their published values.
• It is still no too clear that Drell-Yan was subtracted from spectra
• It is a big concern on how charm was treated

 

The biggest concern from my side is the way we fit the spectra. In fact we can use the fit and extract T only if spectral function/M^2 is constant (structureless), because only than dN/dM is defined by f^B.

 

I would be happy to read new drafts of papers (please send me pdf if possible as my account was blocked… and it takes longer this time to rehabilitate…) or look at the slides or answer questions. 

 

Cheers,

Tetyana

 

 

From: Star-dilepton-l <star-dilepton-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of "Brandenburg, Daniel" <brandenburg.89 AT osu.edu>
Date: Tuesday, 28. March 2023 at 14:36
To: "Star-dilepton-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <Star-dilepton-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: [Star-dilepton-l] Dilepton meeting reminder

 

Dear all,

 

This is a reminder for our dilepton meeting today at 10am. Yiding will give a presentation. Please let us know if anyone else would like to share slides. 

 

Drupal: 

https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/event/2023/03/28/Dielectron-Focus-Group-Meeting

 

 

Zoom:

https://bnl.zoomgov.com/j/1614823129?pwd=TEdjV0FBY0tRTG02bkp4dzR5RWYzdz09

 

 

Best,

 

Daniel Brandenburg

Assistant Professor 

College of Arts and Sciences 

Department of Physics 

Ohio State University 

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