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  • From: Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
  • To: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Niseem Magdy Abdelwahab Abdelrahman for Initial Stages 2021 submitted for review
  • Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 10:16:58 -0400

Hi Niseem,
The new version looks good. I only have one comment. With that included I sign off.

"Jet quenching studies can give crucial insight on the initial-state geometry and the transport
properties that characterize the QGP created in high-energy nuclear collisions."
-->
"Studying the quenching of high momentum particles in collision systems of various shapes and sizes provide crucial insights on the initial conditions and the transport properties of the QGP"

Let's avoid starting the abstract with "Jet quenching studies" to discern it from traditional jet reconstruction analyses.

We are still not sure if we should not promise results on Isobar collisions. Please be prepared to edit the part where you say "Ru+Ru" and "Zr+Zr".

Best,
Prithwish





On 2020-09-21 07:45, Jiangyong Jia via Star-fcv-l wrote:
Hi, Niseem,

The abstract looks very good. My only suggestion is to try align the
physics better with initial state of the Heavy ion collisions.

Right now you mainly talk about the final state, but I believe jet
tomography also constrains initial geometry (via the scaling relations) 

You might want to mention something about the scaling aspect and what
one can learn by comparing with LHC.

Other than this, I sign off.

Jiangyong



On 2020-09-15 20:19, niseem via Star-fcv-l wrote:
Dear Prithwish and ShinIchi,

Please find the updated abstract at this link,

https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/Niseem_IS1_21_0.pdf


For your comments,

(1) ShinIchi comments,

1- I thought you would be also focusing various different ways of
non-flow subtractions, which you do not mention here at all, while you
do mention about the different ways of centrality definition only for
UU?
There is no different centrality definition I rephrased the
sentence to give a better understanding

2- I would say you might like to focus on the most important
topics/point that you would like to
present, like energy dependence, system size dependence, centrality
determination and/or non-flow subtraction etc…
Abstract updated

3-some more words on how this measurement would be related to the
small system vn? where we do not see clear quenching effect at least
on RAA...
I agree with you, p+Au got removed

(2) Prithwish comments
i- Comments on the abstract :
-using the STAR experiment —> from the STAR experiment
-Au+At at 200 —> Au+Au at 200
-“The measurements scaling features”   sounds a bit ambiguous, pls. be
specific and revise this sentence.
-constraints for—> constraints on
-upcoming O+O and p+Au runs at RHIC—>anticipated O+O run at RHIC in
the year 2021
All comments are considered


-Do you want to mention p+Au here ? A p+Au run at STAR/RHIC is going
to take a while, also we already have p+Au data which might create a
confusion.
I agree with you, p+Au got removed

-Along the line of ShinIchi's comments: adding a line on the novel
subtraction method that you use can strengthen your abstract, however,
I leave this to you.
I agree with you, the sentence has been updated


ii-Comments on analysis and preliminary approval:
1. We find out what would be our policy on promising isobar data in an
abstract. If PAC’s recommendation on not showing isobar data at any
conference was specific to CME analysis, this won’t be a problem. But,
you don't have to worry -- we will clarify this from management before
the abstract is submitted.

Please note that the meeting will be in January and we started the
production I’m hoping to have final results before that. Also, as
you stated these only flow measurements.

2. In your last presentation you mentioned about ongoing 27 GeV
analysis :
https://www.star.bnl.gov/protected/bulkcorr/niseem/pwg_2020/High_PT_3.pdf

However, in this abstract you mentioned about 54 GeV. Do you have
plans to show/include both 27 and 54 GeV ?

27 GeV added to the abstract I’m working on it now.



Thanks,
Niseem
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