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  • From: Chunjian Zhang <chun-jian.zhang AT stonybrook.edu>
  • To: Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
  • Cc: Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT icloud.com>, "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by ChunJian Zhang for ATHIC 2021 submitted for review
  • Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 10:00:20 -0400

Dear Prithwish,

Hello. Thank you for kind approval. We use STAR CME Published Ru distribution
to determine this. If you also want to use Zr, their differences are 2 tracks.

Best regards
Chunjian

> On Nov 4, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Chunjian,
> I've approved your talk since it is very similar to what you've presented
> at the DNP. One question tough in the plots on slide#2 how did you estimate
> the centrality bins 0.2,1, 2% ?
> These are not official centrality bins.
>
> Best,
> Prithwish
>
>
> On 2021-11-04 09:23, Chunjian Zhang via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>> Dear Convenors,
>> Hello. Just a kinder reminder. If you have no further comments on my
>> slides, could you please move it to Physics? Since the conference will
>> start EST tonight ~Thank you
>> Best regards
>> Chunjian
>>> On Nov 2, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Chunjian Zhang
>>> <chun-jian.zhang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:
>>> Dear Shinchi,
>>> Hello. Your nice comments are considered in
>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/ATHIC_Nov_STAR_SBU_ChunjianZhang_v3_0.pdf
>>> Thank you and best regards
>>> Chunjian
>>> On Nov 2, 2021, at 6:23 PM, ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l
>>> <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>> Dear Chunjian
>>> You have 4 times page 8, which is very nice and instructive, you
>>> added just two lines going
>>> from 3rd to 4th times the same page, but without adding any text in
>>> the page or legend in
>>> the figure, so you could add a few words saying “line is nucleon
>>> glauber and open marker
>>> is quark glauber” somewhere in the page...
>>> Best regards, ShinIchi
>>> On Nov 3, 2021, at 6:35, Chunjian Zhang
>>> <chun-jian.zhang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:
>>> Dear Shinlchi,
>>> Hello. Than you for nice comments. Please find the new updates in
>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/ATHIC_Nov_STAR_SBU_ChunjianZhang_v3.pdf
>>> and my answers for addressing your comments below
>>> It’s very good to go step-by-step from 1) to 4) in p7, as I told
>>> you earlier,
>>> I would like to see just with “R0" in 3) and add “a0” in 4),
>>> that you can
>>> show us sometime later in the PWG. You know my step by step is:
>>> beta2—> Beta2+beta3—> beta2+beta3+a0—> beta2+beta3+R+a0;
>>> You nice comments will be addressed in the later PWG. But I do need
>>> time to run the cases (beta2+beta3+R). Because this is not the
>>> approximated estimations. These are direct input.
>>> Anyway, we can also estimate the R effect from the difference
>>> between beta2+beta3+a0 and beta2+beta3+R+a0.
>>> BUT. I also agree with you adding beta2+beta3+R is a good
>>> suggestions and I will run it.
>>> In p8, you are showing Glauber estimators first with open symbols
>>> and
>>> then later lines, it’s not clear from the slide about the
>>> difference between
>>> symbols and lines, while red-blue difference is clear, though. Can
>>> you also
>>> do this with AMPT?
>>> Line is nucleon glauber and open marker is quark glauber. You can
>>> see more smear in the tail. And the peripheral and mid-central is
>>> identical.
>>> We can not do it in the AMPT since AMPT the radial response of mean
>>> pt fluctuations is not enough or weaker . So it’s hard to give the
>>> right answers.
>>> In p9, you scale the experimental data by 1.015, so you might like
>>> to
>>> give a reasoning about this, too. You would also need to point out
>>> that
>>> there is one free parameter “trigger efficiency” in the Glauber
>>> fitting to
>>> the experimental data independently for two systems, since one
>>> excludes
>>> the peripheral region from the fitting, that is also the reasoning
>>> why you
>>> would like to scale up, I guess… We also need to think about how
>>> we
>>> compare these 4 different assumptions to the common data or
>>> individually…Thank you for this comment. I do need to add "! Note
>>> the normalization is very sensitive to the trigger efficiency”
>>> Thank you and best regards
>>> Chunjian
>>> On Nov 2, 2021, at 12:19 PM, ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l
>>> <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>> Dear Chunjian
>>> Thanks for the nice slide, I would sign off with a few comments
>>> below.
>>> It’s very good to go step-by-step from 1) to 4) in p7, as I told
>>> you earlier,
>>> I would like to see just with “R0" in 3) and add “a0” in 4),
>>> that you can
>>> show us sometime later in the PWG.
>>> In p8, you are showing Glauber estimators first with open symbols
>>> and
>>> then later lines, it’s not clear from the slide about the
>>> difference between
>>> symbols and lines, while red-blue difference is clear, though. Can
>>> you also
>>> do this with AMPT?
>>> In p9, you scale the experimental data by 1.015, so you might like
>>> to
>>> give a reasoning about this, too. You would also need to point out
>>> that
>>> there is one free parameter “trigger efficiency” in the Glauber
>>> fitting to
>>> the experimental data independently for two systems, since one
>>> excludes
>>> the peripheral region from the fitting, that is also the reasoning
>>> why you
>>> would like to scale up, I guess… We also need to think about how
>>> we
>>> compare these 4 different assumptions to the common data or
>>> individually…
>>> Best regards, ShinIchi
>>> On Oct 30, 2021, at 7:09, webmaster--- via Star-fcv-l
>>> <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>> Dear star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
>>> ChunJian Zhang (chun-jian.zhang AT stonybrook.edu) has submitted a
>>> material for
>>> a review, please have a look:
>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/56975
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