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  • From: Veronica Verkest <vverkest AT gmail.com>
  • To: Sooraj Radhakrishnan <skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov>, STAR HardProbes PWG <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Cc: webmaster <webmaster AT star.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review
  • Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2022 12:09:12 -0400

Hi all,

Thank you for the helpful feedback on the poster. I have taken all comments into consideration and made several changes (the new version is on Drupal: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/60189). I would like to note that I have kept the jet mass figures as they are--although they have the same physics message, it is important to show that they are indeed consistent when comparing groomed vs. ungroomed to make a statement that the mass is not modified. If this or any of the other changes are still unclear or could use revision, please let me know.

Nihar--
concerning the conclusion: the anti-correlation between hard jets in the TPC and soft EA particles in the BBC exists over a large rapidity span. By causality, this must be a correlation from shortly after the hard scattering that is not destroyed by medium or final-state effects. We can discuss this further if there are more questions.

For anyone curious, the poster session is at 13:00 ET tomorrow (Friday, the 8th) and I am presenting remotely.

Thanks again,
Veronica

On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 9:11 AM Sooraj Radhakrishnan via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi Veronika,
   The poster reads good. Please find a few comments from me below

Abstract: '(as shown in ATLAS data)' - do you need this in the abstract?
Introduction: significant jet modification in p+Au 
Method: p_T,lead^reco is undefined
Experiment: Towers have a trigger cut off, isnt? You list the range from 0.2 GeV
Experiment: Scintillator detector 
Jet and UE results: First bullet can be removed, as you dont show them
Jet mass: Jet mass need to be defined. You dont discuss about jet mass in the introduction, why it is interesting to study isnt indicated 
Jet mass: second bullet: where do we see this consistency? 
Activity vs jet yield: First bullet: Can this bias on the EA selection be quantified from these distributions? Does it explain the observed modification?
Activity vs jet yield: Second bullet: Is the same observed also for EA_BBC selected events?
Conclusion: EA anti-correlated?
Conclusion: Second bullet: where do we see this?
Conclusion: Third bullet: Is there a strong centrality dependent modification for the jet mass in A+A collisions?
Conclusion: last bullet: the part after hyphen can be removed 

thanks
Sooraj


On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 5:06 PM Barbara Trzeciak via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi Veronika,

nice and clear poster.
Please see my comments below. With these addressed I sign off.

Introduction:
- Yet ATLAS (right) and PHENIX observed significant jet modification -> Yet ATLAS and PHENIX observed significant jet modification in p+Au collisions
Jet mass
- Consistent with QCD predictions and STAR pp data - you don't have on the plot neither QCD predictions nor pp data, right ?
Since conclusions from the top and bottom plots are the same, I would suggest replacing one of them with a plot showing a comparison between the p+Au and pp results. 
And I guess the conclusion on the consistency with QCD predictions is based on the p+p paper ? If so, I would suggest moving the reference closer to the statement, now it looks that the plot is taken from this paper. 
Activity-dependent jet yields
- Right plot: the legends and labels are very small, please enlarge them. 
 = 200 GeV = 200 GeV -> = 200 GeV (the energy is doubled)

Cheers,
Barbara

On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 1:03 PM Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Veronica,

Please find my comment and suggestions on your nice poster.

Introduction:

_Yet ATLAS (right) and PHENIX ..   ->  ATLAS and PHENIX … (please
provide references to these results)
_"WHy ?" Remove it

_"p+A collisions thought too small for QGP formation "  Need to mention
what that is "small"? For example, system size, initial energy density,
etc

_"How does the hard scattering in an event affect event activity (EA)
and underlying event (UE) at mid-rapidity?" -> You need to mention what
is EA and UE.

_Just after the above statement.
This ATLAS plot does not fit to the physics message.

Experiment and Event Activity:

_Mention what is eta?
_"|η|<1, " - > "|η| < 1 " (similarly below) _ "Charged tracks …" and
"Neutral tower…" in box; please include in the TPC and BEMC bullets (no
need to have a separate box)
_"the inner BBC signal" -> what is that signal? ADC/hit/ etc.


Jets and UE measurement method:

_R=0.4 -> mention what is R?
_ Need to mention what are  phi_lead, phi_trig, phi_UE, eta_lead?
_what is p_{T,lead}^{reco}? Mention it.

Jet mass as a function of EA:

_Define and mention what is jet mass?
_Consistent with QCD predictions and STAR pp data  -> "Consistent with
QCD predictions" or "STAR p+Au data and QCD predictions are consistent"


Activity-dependent jet yields:

_"The distribution of EA_BBC is inversely correlated to leading jet pT"
and also its bullet -> Please rephrase this; not clear


Conclusion:
"Dependence of soft particle production on the initial hard scattering"
-> How do you draw this conclusion?
"Indicates EA vs. Q2 correlations from early time effects" -> Not sure,
How do you draw this conclusion?
"Jet quenching in p+Au collisions disfavored—no sign of final state hot
nuclear matter effects" Very strong statement. I would suggest to drop
this or mild this statement. Not sure how do you get this conclusion?


Cheers
Nihar

On 2022-07-07 15:30, webmaster--- via Star-hp-l wrote:
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