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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review
- From: Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
- To: Sooraj Radhakrishnan <skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov>, STAR HardProbes PWG <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
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- Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review
- Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 00:31:04 +0800
Hi Veronica,
I have some minor comments/suggestions on your poster for your consideration.
- Abstract:
- STAR measurements --> the measurements
- remove "(as shown below in ATLAS data)"
- -- including.... EA -- to study --> , including ... EA, to study
- Introduction:
- Title: Introduction and motivation (? up to you)
- remove "(right)"
- Move "p+A collisions ..." to the second bullet
- Jet and UE measurement method:
- remove "method" (? up to you)
- Are you using "charged jets"? If so, it would be better to mention it.
- I have difficulty connecting your content with the right plot (probably it is just me). This is a very nice plot, but it would be great to mention what "East jet", "West jet", "UE_East", and "UE_West" mean (how they are used in your analysis).
- Experiment and Event Activity
- "Event activity can be related to impact parameter, and therefore is used as a proxy for centrality": Just for my own education, why don't you use the standard definition of centrality?
- Jet and UE measurement results:
- Remove "Mean pT of UE particles (not shown)..." since you are not showing it.
- Jet mass as a function of EA:
- Do you need to emphasize "especially at lower jet pT bins"? They all look consistent to me...
- You need to emphasize the top plots are "ungroomed" jets and bottom plots are "SoftDrop" jets
- Activity-dependent jet yields:
- Right plot, you might need to define Delta_phi (the small cartoon plot is not sufficient).
- Conclusions:
- I don't see the results to support the first bullet. Probably I missed something.
- Move the third bullet up (before the second one)
- Is the last bullet related to the third one (re-emphasize)?
Cheers,
Yi
On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 9:12 PM Sooraj Radhakrishnan via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi Veronika,_______________________________________________The poster reads good. Please find a few comments from me belowAbstract: '(as shown in ATLAS data)' - do you need this in the abstract?Introduction: significant jet modification in p+AuMethod: p_T,lead^reco is undefinedExperiment: Towers have a trigger cut off, isnt? You list the range from 0.2 GeVExperiment: Scintillator detectorJet and UE results: First bullet can be removed, as you dont show themJet mass: Jet mass need to be defined. You dont discuss about jet mass in the introduction, why it is interesting to study isnt indicatedJet mass: second bullet: where do we see this consistency?Activity vs jet yield: First bullet: Can this bias on the EA selection be quantified from these distributions? Does it explain the observed modification?Activity vs jet yield: Second bullet: Is the same observed also for EA_BBC selected events?Conclusion: EA anti-correlated?Conclusion: Second bullet: where do we see this?Conclusion: Third bullet: Is there a strong centrality dependent modification for the jet mass in A+A collisions?Conclusion: last bullet: the part after hyphen can be removedthanksSoorajOn Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 5:06 PM Barbara Trzeciak via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:Hi Veronika,nice and clear poster.Please see my comments below. With these addressed I sign off.Introduction:- Yet ATLAS (right) and PHENIX observed significant jet modification -> Yet ATLAS and PHENIX observed significant jet modification in p+Au collisionsJet mass- Consistent with QCD predictions and STAR pp data - you don't have on the plot neither QCD predictions nor pp data, right ?Since conclusions from the top and bottom plots are the same, I would suggest replacing one of them with a plot showing a comparison between the p+Au and pp results.And I guess the conclusion on the consistency with QCD predictions is based on the p+p paper ? If so, I would suggest moving the reference closer to the statement, now it looks that the plot is taken from this paper.Activity-dependent jet yields- Right plot: the legends and labels are very small, please enlarge them.= 200 GeV = 200 GeV -> = 200 GeV (the energy is doubled)Cheers,Barbara_______________________________________________On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 1:03 PM Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:Hello Veronica,
Please find my comment and suggestions on your nice poster.
Introduction:
_Yet ATLAS (right) and PHENIX .. -> ATLAS and PHENIX … (please
provide references to these results)
_"WHy ?" Remove it
_"p+A collisions thought too small for QGP formation " Need to mention
what that is "small"? For example, system size, initial energy density,
etc
_"How does the hard scattering in an event affect event activity (EA)
and underlying event (UE) at mid-rapidity?" -> You need to mention what
is EA and UE.
_Just after the above statement.
This ATLAS plot does not fit to the physics message.
Experiment and Event Activity:
_Mention what is eta?
_"|η|<1, " - > "|η| < 1 " (similarly below) _ "Charged tracks …" and
"Neutral tower…" in box; please include in the TPC and BEMC bullets (no
need to have a separate box)
_"the inner BBC signal" -> what is that signal? ADC/hit/ etc.
Jets and UE measurement method:
_R=0.4 -> mention what is R?
_ Need to mention what are phi_lead, phi_trig, phi_UE, eta_lead?
_what is p_{T,lead}^{reco}? Mention it.
Jet mass as a function of EA:
_Define and mention what is jet mass?
_Consistent with QCD predictions and STAR pp data -> "Consistent with
QCD predictions" or "STAR p+Au data and QCD predictions are consistent"
Activity-dependent jet yields:
_"The distribution of EA_BBC is inversely correlated to leading jet pT"
and also its bullet -> Please rephrase this; not clear
Conclusion:
"Dependence of soft particle production on the initial hard scattering"
-> How do you draw this conclusion?
"Indicates EA vs. Q2 correlations from early time effects" -> Not sure,
How do you draw this conclusion?
"Jet quenching in p+Au collisions disfavored—no sign of final state hot
nuclear matter effects" Very strong statement. I would suggest to drop
this or mild this statement. Not sure how do you get this conclusion?
Cheers
Nihar
On 2022-07-07 15:30, webmaster--- via Star-hp-l wrote:
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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review,
Barbara Trzeciak, 07/07/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review,
Sooraj Radhakrishnan, 07/07/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review,
Veronica Verkest, 07/07/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review,
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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review,
Nihar Sahoo, 07/07/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review,
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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review,
Sooraj Radhakrishnan, 07/07/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review,
Barbara Trzeciak, 07/07/2022
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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review,
Nihar Sahoo, 07/07/2022
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