STAR HardProbes PWG

[Barbara Trzeciak <barbara.trzeciak AT gmail.com>]

Hi Gabe,

thanks for the updated request.

Please find below my remaining comments. 

- s6: for which constituents pT cut and jet R these uncertainties are. Could you please add the other cases as well.

- s9: I would suggest using more distinct marker colors. Also, there is a red line around the triangle markers.

- As discussed at the meeting, it would be good to add some plot(s) that would help in demonstrating that excess of baryons cannot be explained by picked-up background fluctuations, from the checks on simulations that you did.  

Cheers,

Barbara

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:24 AM Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:

Hello Gabe,

Thank you for preparing these slides.
We can discuss more on your results on Tuesday and/or Thursday
(depending upon other undiscussed analyses). So please join this week.
I think we need more discussion on how to interpret these interesting
results.

Besides, please find my comment on your preliminary request.

General comments:

Please include slide number.

Can you please follow the guidance 1 to 7 from this link for your all
preliminary plots?
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/pwg/common/Preliminary-figures

What is the jet pT range you use for results on Slide7,8 and 9?

Slide7:
Cosmetic:
Please use different color or marker style to show the different markers
or use unfilled box for systematic uncertainty.

Legend: Please also mention what is the jet pT range you use here in pp

Physics:
"similar energies at LHC (by ALICE) and in e+e- data." -> Please include
references for both these results then I will comment on this statement.


Slide8:

Cosmetic:
This fig needs some work, Please follow guidance-5 particularly.
Either you adjust Y-axis scale or place somewhere the legends.

Legend: Please also mention what is the jet pT range you use here in pp
"Constituents p_{T} > 3 GeV/c"
You need to mention what is that "dash red line"?

Physics comment:
I think we need to have the same results for different jet R with pT
constituent > 3 GeV.
It is the key point for this analysis. Because of results in Slide9
(please see my comments below).


Slide9:
Cosmetic: Marker color and style need some work. It is indiscernible at
some bins mainly high pT.

I still think we need to show  (either in a separate plot or in this
plot) AuAu inclusive spectral results.
This is important piece of information relating to jet-medium
interaction or probably modification of PID FF. And I don't think it
undermines our this jet analysis to understand baryon-to-meson compared
with previous AuAu inclusive measurement. It may add another dimension
to our understanding how jet-medium interaction in QGP and its
consequences in terms of PID ratio in side jet. This is a very
interesting results but a little caution is needed on these preliminary
result for HP.

It will certainly raise questions from the audience at HP2023. Why do we
show only pT>2 GeV/c case for jet R dependence not for >3 GeV/c? And
don't compare AuAU inclusive results here.


Slide10:
What is the jet pT range  you use for the above results?

"the excess of softer jet-like objects picked up in Au+Au when the
constituent cut is lowered to 2 GeV/c"
I think this is important to understand. Don;t you think this might
inflict the constituent cut > 2 GeV/c results?



Cheers
Nihar






On 2023-03-12 08:23, Gabe Dale-Gau via Star-hp-l wrote:
> HP-Group
>
> My preliminary request slides are now fully updated.
>
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/PreliminaryFiguresRequest_30823_1.pdf
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or comments on the slides as
> they stand now.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gabe
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 3:33 AM Barbara Trzeciak
> <barbara.trzeciak AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gabe,
>>
>> thanks for sending the slides.
>>
>> I have a few first comments:
>> - Please add slides 2-6 from the preliminary template:
>>
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/Prelim_Request_template.pdf
>> [1]
>> - Please add a separate slide on systematic uncertainties, with
>> their magnitudes.
>> - s5: add p+p inclusive
>> - s6: Inclusie results are published, please add references.
>> - s6: here the question might be if we see any R dependence with
>> constituent pT > 3 GeV/c, as we see on s. 7. Can you remind me if
>> you did such a study ? I have a faint recollection that you showed
>> something and there was no R dependence, but cannot find details.
>> - s7: comparison to p+p results would be useful here.
>> - Move "anti-kT Jets, Constituent pT > " inside the plots.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Barbara
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 3:21 AM Gabe Dale-Gau <gdaleg2 AT uic.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> HP-Group,
>>
>> Here are the slides I will present tomorrow morning:
>>
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/gdalegau/Preliminary-Figures-Request-HP-2023-0
>> [2]
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 3:08 PM Barbara Trzeciak
>> <barbara.trzeciak AT gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gabe,
>>
>> yes, we assume that everyone aiming for HP will give an update on
>> their preliminary request.
>> We already have two requests from people to be first, so there
>> shouldn't be a problem with accomodating your request.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Barbara
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Mar 2023, 21:56 Gabe Dale-Gau, <gdaleg2 AT uic.edu> wrote:
>>
>> HP-Group,
>>
>> I am planning on presenting my preliminary request tomorrow morning.
>> I will send slides later this evening.
>> I haven't seen any other submissions to the meeting via the list
>> serve, but assuming there will be other preliminary requests
>> discussed tomorrow morning could I request to present last? Olga has
>> a standing conflict during the first hour of the meeting and if
>> possible I would like to present at a time she can join.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:09 AM Barbara Trzeciak via Star-hp-l
>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> We have a number of analyses that aim for preliminary approvals for
>> the upcoming HP23 conference.
>> Let me therefore remind you of the rules and propose a few actions
>> that might help in making the process smoother.
>>
>> - At this week's HP meeting we will take only updates on analyses
>> aiming at new preliminary results.
>>
>> - Template for a preliminary request can be found here:
>>
>>
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/Prelim_Request_template.pdf
>> [1]
>>
>> Feb. 27th - Mar. 10th 2023: PAs should make an official request to
>> the PWG.
>>
>> - You can use an example macro for your preliminary figures:
>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/pwg/common/Preliminary-figures [3]
>>
>> This is however not required.
>>
>> - Please make your presentation brief at the HP meeting. Details
>> related to things already discussed please put to the backup, and
>> please include links to your previous presentations on the topic.
>>
>> - If your results are already almost ready, e.g. only some sys.
>> unceraties are missing, please send out a first version of a
>> preliminary request asap (stating what is still to be finalized), do
>> not wait till Thursday.
>> It will help us a lot in reviewing the analysis and have enough
>> discussion on all of the results.
>> If you send your slides earlier we can discuss via emails before the
>> HP meeting and keep only the most important points for the meeting.
>>
>> - All presentations/posters should be posted on Drupal by Mar. 13th,
>> 2023 for approval.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Barbara
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:23 AM Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Hello HP aficionados,
>>
>> We will have our HP-pwg meeting this Thursday (9th Mar) at 10 AM
>> EDT.
>> Let us know please if you want to present and discuss your analysis
>> or
>> any other business.
>> We request you all to send their presentation link 1-2 hrs before
>> the
>> meeting.
>>
>> Deadline for HP2023:
>> 1. Feb. 27th - Mar. 10th 2023: PAs should make an official request
>> to
>> the PWG.
>> 2. All presentations/posters should be posted on Drupal by Mar.
>> 13th,
>> 2023 for approval
>>
>> Also Please update retrospectively the link of your previous
>> presentation on the drupal HP-pwg page (even for 2022).
>>
>> HP working group weekly meeting info:
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