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[Veronica Verkest <vverkest AT gmail.com>]

Hi all,

Thanks again for the round of comments. I have updated my proceedings on Drupal. I still plan to edit the plots in figure 1 to show only one pt range, but I thought I'd send the draft at this stage.

Barbara--You requested that I reference the PHENIX paper when I make a comparison about the J/psi results. Since the STAR paper refers to the PHENIX results, do I still need both references, or would that be redundant? I can add it if necessary!

Cheers,

Veronica

On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 7:58 AM Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:

Hello Veronica,

For the sake of time, I am passing your talk to startalk.
Please address Yi and Isaac's remaining comments and get sign off from
them.

Cheers
Nihar

On 2023-05-15 10:07, Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l wrote:
> Hello Veronica,
>
> I don't have any further comments. I sign off.
>
> Cheers
> Nihar
>
> On 2023-05-15 05:35, Veronica Verkest wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thank you for all the suggestions and corrections. I have updated my
>> proceedings on Drupal after going through comments. I just have some
>> minor notes for Nihar and Isaac below my signature.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Veronica
>>
>> Nihar--
>>
>>> Title: "Heavy flavor and high pT results from STAR " ->  "Recent
>>> heavy
>>> flavor and high pT results at STAR"
>>
>> Should my proceedings have the same title as my talk at Moriond for
>> consistency? This was my understanding, but I can change it if we
>> think that would be better.
>>
>> Isaac--
>>
>>> Fig. 1: I would recommend -- since you don't discuss the jet pT
>>> dependence and the plots are currently pretty small -- using some
>>> Powerpoint/MS Paint/etc. magic to remove the 30-50 GeV panel in each
>>> figure (keeping the legend).
>>
>> I have strongly considered this, and you know I am great with "magic
>> image manipulation", but I struggled to figure out how to make it cute
>> while keeping the whole caption. I will work on this and if I have
>> something that looks better, I will update it.
>>
>>> 35. This wording here is unclear (to me). I think you're saying that
>>> pA allows us to test the null hypothesis (I haven't heard of a null
>>> experiment before) that actually some of the final state effects we
>>> see in AA are not due to QGP. This could be clarified in the text.
>>
>> Okay, fair. I have re-worded, using some of your words and I think it
>> is more explicit now.
>>
>>> 76. Should stick with either Figure or Fig. throughout.
>>
>> I did originally, but Yi reminded me that it is standard to write out
>> the full word when it is the first word of the sentence. Of course,
>> this is minor, anyway.
>>
>>> 70. The conclusion here that there are "clear CNM effects at
>>> low-p_{T}" is interesting since you were just talking about the
>>> possibility of hot nuclear matter effects on jets in small systems.
>>> Wouldn't that be a possible effect at low-pT contributing to the
>>> suppression we see? I understand that if you compare to models that
>>> only have CNM effects, this is good evidence to support the only-CNM
>>> claim, but in the text the models aren't mentioned so it seems like
>>> a conclusion coming straight from the data.
>>
>> I see what you are getting at here and have changed some text per your
>> suggestions. The p+Au section is about CNM, but it starts with a
>> detour to look at this modification and, specifically, whether it is
>> due to hot nuclear matter effects. I do not discuss the possibility of
>> CNM in my p+Au measurements, but I suggest the reason for possible
>> mis-classification of centrality, and--even more importantly--I
>> emphasize that the effects I observe in p+Au are not due to final
>> state effects. I think it is also worth noting that the jets in my
>> p+Au study are at higher pT values. Let me know if you still feel like
>> this could benefit from some revision.
>>
>> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 6:37 PM Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Veronica,
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for the updated version. I don't have any further
>>> comments (I think after addressing Nihar and Issac's comments are
>>> good enough!).
>>>
>>> Regarding the conclusion, I think Issac's suggestion is a good one "
>>> "R_{pAu} for J/\psi is in agreement with RdAu as measured in PHENIX,
>>> and consistent with models which only include CNM effects.". You can
>>> consider using it!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Yi
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:09 AM Veronica Verkest
>>> <vverkest AT gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Yi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for another thorough revision--especially concerning
>>> conclusions about J/psi measurements and CNM effects, which are not
>>> as intuitive to me as jets. I also appreciate the attention to
>>> style/structure. I updated the PDF on Drupal and in addition to your
>>> revisions, I slightly modified the sentences on lines 38 and 87. The
>>> 4-page limit is not an issue, I just like to make our plots bigger
>>> when possible. In addition, the title page photo is optional, but it
>>> does not add as many lines as its height, per LaTeX styling.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 10:18 PM Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Veronica,
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for the updated version. I only have some follow up
>>> suggestions for your consideration.
>>> - L37: I wanted to say removing "cold nuclear matter", but I typed
>>> CNM. Please use CNM here. Sorry about that.
>>> - L71: I would use "showing clear CNM effect at low-pT".
>>> - L105: I understand there is a page limitation, but I would
>>> suggest putting the "clear CNM effect at low-pT for J/psi" in the
>>> conclusion.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Yi
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:56 AM Veronica Verkest
>>> <vverkest AT gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Yi –– I appreciate all the helpful feedback! I have implemented
>>> all of your changes and I have also changed the acknowledgements
>>> section to be more specific.
>>>
>>> I have uploaded this slightly revised version so that Nihar and
>>> Isaac can look it over at their convenience. There is a 4 page
>>> limit, so we cannot add quite too much more content anyway.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 3:38 PM Yi Yang <yiyang0429 AT gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Veronica,
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for the nice proceedings. I have some minor
>>> comments for your consideration.
>>> - L24: Fig. 1 --> Figure 1
>>> - L36: remove (CNM)
>>> - L43: image --> plot
>>> - L44: high-E_T --> high-transverse-energy (high-E_T)
>>> - L52: image --> plot
>>> - L54: p_T --> transverse momentum (pT)
>>> - Figure 3 actually indicates that CNM is observed at low pT < 3
>>> GeV region and it should be mentioned in the text.
>>> - L73: the description of the nuclear modification factor should
>>> move up to around L62, before talking about the RpA for J/psi.
>>> - L75: image --> plot
>>> - L75: jets --> J/psi
>>> - L77: need to define Npart
>>> - Figure 4: The left plot is RAA for J/psi, should be mentioned in
>>> the caption.
>>> - L79: since you specifically describe Upsilon here, should you
>>> describe J/psi as well somewhere before it?
>>> - L81: image --> plot
>>> - L90: Fig. 5 --> Figure 5
>>> - L104: should mention J/psi here
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Yi
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 12:26 AM Veronica Verkest via Star-hp-l
>>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In the hustle of recent submissions, I just wanted to send a
>>> reminder about my Moriond proceedings (here:
>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/63649). The due date is the
>>> 15th, which is Monday. I welcome and appreciate any feedback!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 7:36 PM webmaster--- via Star-hp-l
>>> <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>> Dear Star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
>>>
>>> Veronica Verkest (vverkest AT gmail.com) has submitted a material for a
>>> review,
>>> please have a look:
>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/63649
>>>
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