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  • From: "Fisyak, Yuri V" <fisyak AT bnl.gov>
  • To: "Videbaek, Flemming" <videbaek AT bnl.gov>, "Camarda, Timothy" <tcamarda AT bnl.gov>
  • Cc: James H Thomas <jhthomas AT berkeley.edu>, Tonko Ljubicic <tonko.ljubicic AT gmail.com>, Star-tpc L <Star-tpc-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [[Star-tpc-l] ] new RDO in STAR iTPC geometry
  • Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 22:00:11 +0000

Flemming, thank you. Tim and Alexei, do you have inner and outer RDO to weight them ?

 


                                                              Yuri Fisyak

STAR                                           Phone: +1 631 344 3913
Brookhaven National Laboratory  Fax:    +1 631 344 4206
510A/1-161
http://www.star.bnl.gov/~fisyak       E-mail: fisyak AT bnl.gov

 

 

 

From: videbaek <videbaek AT bnl.gov>
Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2025 at 4:56
PM
To: Camarda, Timothy <tcamarda AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Fisyak, Yuri V <fisyak AT bnl.gov>, James H Thomas <jhthomas AT berkeley.edu>, Tonko Ljubicic <tonko.ljubicic AT gmail.com>, Star-tpc L <Star-tpc-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: [[Star-tpc-l] ] new RDO in STAR iTPC geometry

So Yuri

The itpc rdo's are smaller than the DAQ 1000 on the outer sectors
we should weigh one of the new RDO's and use as material something
similar to what
was use in outer RDO (g10,+cu+si in some mixture maybe)

Flemming




On 2025-03-04 16:15, Camarda, Timothy wrote:
> Yes, The readout boards are mounted to the water manifold.
>  I don't have the water manifold drawings but...
>
>  See attached photo from the test sector. The water manifold is
> mounted above the strong-back (drawings Jim provided).
>
>  Where I note in orange there are 2x boards installed on the lowest
> rung of the water manifold...then 2x more on the next rungs.
>
>  The boards are 23.5cm x 18.5cm.
>
>  Tim
>
> -------------------------
>
> From: videbaek <videbaek AT bnl.gov>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2025 3:19 PM
> To: Videbaek, Flemming <videbaek AT bnl.gov>
> Cc: Fisyak, Yuri V <fisyak AT bnl.gov>; James H Thomas
> <jhthomas AT berkeley.edu>; Camarda, Timothy <tcamarda AT bnl.gov>; Tonko
> Ljubicic <tonko.ljubicic AT gmail.com>; Star-tpc L
> <Star-tpc-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> Subject: Re: [[Star-tpc-l] ] new RDO in STAR iTPC geometry
>
> Hi Yuri,
>
> I believe the RDOs are mounted on the water manifolds. I tried to look
>
> for some pictures , but they are not well organized.
>
> best F.
>
> On 2025-03-04 15:16, videbaek wrote:
>> On 2025-03-04 14:58, Fisyak, Yuri V wrote:
>>> Dear Jason and Jim, thank you for the drawings.
>>>
>>> One question: Can I assume that holes marked on the left side of
> the
>>> fist drawing (TPC350-E-1) as  “2X”are set screw to support RDO
> ?
>>>
>>>                                                               Yuri
>>> Fisyak
>>>
>>> STAR                                           Phone: +1 631 344
> 3913
>>> Brookhaven National Laboratory  Fax:    +1 631 344 4206
>>> 510A/1-161
>>> http://www.star.bnl.gov/~fisyak       E-mail: fisyak AT bnl.gov
>>>
>>> From: star-tpc-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov
>>> <star-tpc-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of James H Thomas
>>> <star-tpc-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>>> Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2025 at 1:38
PM
>>> To: Videbaek, Flemming <videbaek AT bnl.gov>, Camarda, Timothy
>>> <tcamarda AT bnl.gov>
>>> Cc: Tonko Ljubicic <tonko.ljubicic AT gmail.com>, Star-tpc L
>>> <Star-tpc-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
>>> Subject: Re: [[Star-tpc-l] ] new RDO in STAR iTPC geometry
>>>
>>> Dear TPC Experts,
>>>
>>> Enclosed is an up to date diagram for the iTPC sectors.   The
> comment
>>> box in the upper right hand corner indicates that the drawing
> includes
>>> modifications for the Grid Leak Walls, and slots for the
> electronics
>>> shifted to their new positions.
>>>
>>> P.S. Many thanks to Jason Farrell for creating this drawing for us.
>>> He did an outstanding job on a very fast timescale.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jim Thomas
>>>
>>> Email: jhthomas AT berkeley.edu
>>>
>>> Phone:  USA  (510) 759-4936
>>>
>>> Homepage: https://sites.google.com/berkeley.edu/jhthomas [1] [2]
>>>
>>> Please don't feel obligated to respond to this message outside of
> your
>>> normal working hours.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 10:06
PM videbaek <videbaek AT bnl.gov>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Yuri,
>>>>
>>>> We should include Jim and Tim in these discussion. Tim has RDO
>>>> boards in
>>>> the lab and we can check weights and sizes, and the teststand can
>>>> probably be used to see how the RDOs are positioned.
>>>> THE FFE are not exactly at the same position as the OLD but
> shifted
>>>> by a
>>>> small amount (includes the holes for the FFEEs)
>>>>
>>>> best Flemming
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-03-03 09:51, Fisyak, Yuri V wrote:
>>>>> Hello Tonko, during yesterday ETOF meeting, it was a question
>>>> about
>>>>> the material budget before ETOF.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have found that we have old description of geometry in GEANT
> for
>>>> the
>>>>> electronics readout , done in 2005 mainly for ECAL.
>>>>>
>>>>> This description has not been updated with iTPC.
>>>>>
>>>>> The question is : Do you have any drawings for the iTPC
>>>> electronics
>>>>> assembly ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe  the main difference is adding 2 more RDOs.
>>>>>
>>>>> For ETOF it is necessary to update this geometry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yuri
>>>>> Fisyak
>>>>>
>>>>> STAR                                           Phone: +1 631 344
>>>> 3913
>>>>> Brookhaven National Laboratory  Fax:    +1 631 344 4206
>>>>> 510A/1-161
>>>>> http://www.star.bnl.gov/~fisyak       E-mail: fisyak AT bnl.gov
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Flemming Videbaek
>>>> senior scientist, emeritus
>>>> videbaek @ bnl.gov [1]
>>>> Brookhaven National Lab
>>>> Physics Department
>>>> Bldg 510D
>>>> Upton, NY 11973
>>>>
>>>> phone: 631-344-4106
>>>> cell     :  631-681-1596
>>>
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> ------
>>> [1] http://bnl.gov
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>>>
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>
> --
> Flemming Videbaek
> senior scientist, emeritus
> videbaek @ bnl.gov
> Brookhaven National Lab
> Physics Department
> Bldg 510D
> Upton, NY 11973
>
> phone: 631-344-4106
> cell     :  631-681-1596
>
>
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--
Flemming Videbaek
senior scientist, emeritus
videbaek @ bnl.gov
Brookhaven National Lab
Physics Department
Bldg 510D
Upton, NY 11973

phone: 631-344-4106
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