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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT
- From: "David W. Miller" <David.W.Miller AT uchicago.edu>
- To: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
- Cc: Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>, "usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT
- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 20:53:25 +0000
Hi John,
What I did (in a private mail sent to Mark Oreglia for comment) was just to
average FY20 and FY21 since Apr2020—Mar2021 spans half of each.
Cheers,
David
> On Dec 12, 2019, at 2:44 PM, John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was looking back at the documentation from the time of FDR, such as
> the L2 Cost Book. However, everything is rolled up according to FY, so I
> don't see a simple way with those docs to get the costs for Apr. 1/2020 -
> Mar. 31/2021.
> Mike/Jon, will you be able to get that from the Cost Controls people?
>
> John
>
> On 12/12/19 1:14 PM, Michael Tuts wrote:
>> Hi NSF scope L2 and deputy,
>> Despite knowing the LS3 would be delayed by a year, NSF is now asking on a
>> very short timescale for an assessment of the impact. There is one
>> question posed where we can use your input on the impact of a 1 year delay
>> of MREFC funding.
>> “Please also comment on the impacts, by Level 2 WBS, of the impacts if
>> there were to be a one-year delay in the start of MREFC funding. Include
>> the risks or standing army costs of engineer and technician labor, or
>> other negative impacts of NSF funding delay. Im assuming the risk of
>> losing key technical staff in your engineering pool that would otherwise
>> move to other projects at the various universities is a big factor.”
>> Can you please provide an initial assessment for your L2 asap – note we
>> are requested to provide an answer by 9am tomorrow (Friday)!
>> Thanks, PO
>> *From:* Coles, Mark W. <mcoles AT nsf.gov>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 12, 2019 12:23 PM
>> *To:* Michael Tuts <tuts AT pmtuts.net>; Anders Ryd <anders.ryd AT cornell.edu>
>> *Cc:* Gonzalez, Saul <sgonzale AT nsf.gov>; Caldwell, C. Denise
>> <dcaldwel AT nsf.gov>
>> *Subject:* VERY IMPORTANT
>> *Importance:* High
>> Dear Mike and Anders
>> Would each of you please send me, by 9AM Friday morning, your immediate
>> assessment of the impacts on the ATLAS or CMS MREFC program of the CERN
>> schedule delay? Please provide a summary, by level 2 WBS element, of what
>> you believe this impacts to be, or if there are none.
>> Please also comment on the impacts, by Level 2 WBS, of the impacts if
>> there were to be a one-year delay in the start of MREFC funding. Include
>> the risks or standing army costs of engineer and technician labor, or
>> other negative impacts of NSF funding delay. Im assuming the risk of
>> losing key technical staff in your engineering pool that would otherwise
>> move to other projects at the various universities is a big factor.
>> Please provide a summary description of the process that ATLAS and CMS, at
>> the international level, will implement (or that you anticipate they will
>> implement) to realign their construction programs, and any knock-on
>> effects on NSF.
>> Please try to keep this at a concise summary level so that the whole
>> response is about one page for each detector.
>> I expect to get a thousand hand wringing questions from various high
>> officials within NSF about this, as they hate surprises. Obvviously you
>> are having to react quickly to new information, so it will be important to
>> emphasize where the NSF program is decoupled from other agency activities
>> or the international schedule, minimizing impacts, and where a delayed
>> start by NSF would nevertheless be damaging to NSF-supported scientists
>> and their opportunities to participate in the HL LHC program.
>> Email if you have more questions. Our goal here at NSF is to put out a
>> three page summary by COB Friday, one page from NSF internal evaluation,
>> one page from ATLAS, and one from CMS.
>> The delay information we’ve seen here at NSF was blamed on the need for a
>> long detector fabrication schedule. What is driving it?
>> Thanks
>> Mark
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[Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
Michael Tuts, 12/12/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
John Parsons, 12/12/2019
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT, Stephanie Majewski, 12/12/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
David W. Miller, 12/12/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
Stephanie Majewski, 12/12/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
David W. Miller, 12/12/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
John Parsons, 12/12/2019
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT, Kotcher, Jonathan, 12/12/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
John Parsons, 12/12/2019
- Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT, David W Miller, 12/12/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
John Parsons, 12/12/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
David W. Miller, 12/12/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
Stephanie Majewski, 12/12/2019
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Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-l2deputymgmt-nsf-l] FW: VERY IMPORTANT,
John Parsons, 12/12/2019
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