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[John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>]

Hi Hong,

        Thanks for the comments.  I made the changes
(the last one was copy/paste from my L2 talk, so I
left it in L2 but took it out of L3).

                John

On 7/20/19 6:27 PM, Ma, Hong wrote:
> Hi John,
>
>                  A few minor comments on your FEB2 L3 talk.
>
> Slide 5:
>
>                  The first highlight box can start with “final 
> prototyping”, instead of just “prototyping”
>
> Slide 7:
>
>                  “Need to measure deposited energies with resolution < 
> 0.25%”.
>
>                  This sounds like you need to measure all energies with 
> that resolution.
>
> “Need to measure deposited energies with as high resolution as < 0.25%”.
>
> Slide 22:
>
> “ mostly for postdoc supported on Columbia NSF base grant”
>
> I see some uncosted student efforts in RLS. Are they really small 
> compared to postdocs?
>
> Slide 25:
>
> “(eg. for ASICs, for which the designs are now well advanced and sizes 
> known better)”
>
> But ASICs are not part of FEB2 cost.
>
> Hong.
>
> *From: *Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l 
> <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of John 
> Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> *Date: *Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 3:34 PM
> *To: *"usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov" 
> <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> *Subject: *Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] updates of NSF talk and other docs
>
> Hi all,
>
> I looked quickly through other L3 talks
>
> and give some comments below.
>
> John
>
> Tim
>
> p. 19 - "At start of MREFC, Final Prototype ADC..."
>
> (MREFC is missing.  Also, I have been calling them
>
> "Final Prototypes" to stress "construction ready"
>
> aspect, so let's all to that consistently
>
> p. 25 - "Data and control...   conclude."
>
> - make a stronger stmt that these tests
>
> "will demonstrate the design and implementation of
>
> the data and control optical links for the FEB2"
>
> to stress (again) the construction ready nature
>
> p. 26 - typo "allows"
>
> p. 28 - instead of "no changes" I would say the big
>
> change is that the Analog Testboard has verified the
>
> functionality of the interfaces
>
> p. 30 - typo "closed"
>
> p. 31 - you say "first test planned" but it is already
>
> working
>
> p. 34 - update table from my L2 talk
>
> p. 37 - remove reduction until next slide, where it
>
> is explained as a shift from FE to BE
>
> p. 38 - add that shift from FE was done by reducing
>
> 67% to 54% in optics, as agreed in MOU
>
> p. 39 - update pie chart
>
> p. 41 - add that ASICs purchased through CERN Frame Contract
>
> with TSMC
>
> p. 43 - delete
>
> p. 44 - update chart
>
> p. 45-46 - need some text.  Consider using ATLAS review dates
>
> pp. 47+48 - delete (those charts aren't made any more
>
> p. 50 - make clear this is about optics
>
> p. 51 - you are right, we now using 66.2% (need to
>
> fix previous table of 100% on p. 34
>
> and also anywhere where we might have said 67%)
>
> p. 51 - say something about die size and how you get
>
> number of wafers?
>
> p. 58 - why 75 wafers here? (typo?)
>
> p. 59 - typo "allows"
>
>      - suggest to add "original construction" in addition
>
> to Phase 1
>
> p. 62 - delete, since you put earlier
>
> p. 62 - not updated
>
> - at end, you are supposed to have your 1 risk/page
>
> risk pages (ie. in the format from the risk scrubbing)
>
> Andy
>
> p. 2 - delete red box
>
> p. 4 - expand this to 3-4 slides; there is no need to
>
> cram all this on one slide
>
> - also, update system block diag from my L2 talk
>
> p. 5 - either fill in or delete (I don't think we need
>
> names of people, but you need to say somewhere that
>
> SBU/UAz did similar tasks in Ph 1
>
> p. 6 - don't mix "carrier" and "main"; choose one
>
>      - stress that functionality for US is the same,
>
> just the details of the h/w implementation has changed
>
> (we need to rely on Ph. 1 experience to argue we
>
> are "construction ready", so promote the analogy
>
> from Ph 1 to HL-LHC)
>
> p. 8 - you have space to make fig a bit bigger (and more
>
> readable)
>
> p. 9 - change title to "PreMREFC/MREFC Boundary"
>
>     - we should discuss with PO how they want to handle
>
> the 5 mo. float issue.  They have said in past they would
>
> like to try funding the sRTM v1 fab already in preMREFC,
>
> but I don't know if they still hope for that, and in
>
> any case what they want us to say.  I will ask
>
>     - also we need to be careful about MREFC and maturity
>
> of design when it starts (ie. "construction ready".
>
> You should end preMREFC bit saying Ph 1/eval board work/
>
> design of v1 sRTM will deliver a design that meets the
>
> FDR requirements.  Then MREFC will test v1, design and
>
> test v2, do prototype, then pre(prod).  See the slide
>
> in my L2 talk about this
>
> p. 10+12 - need to fill in.  See slides in my L3 and Tim's
>
> as examples
>
> p. 14 - take new org chart from my L2 talk
>
>    - too simplified view of partners?  (eg. f/w certainly
>
> has many groups)
>
>     - I would suggest to separate this from org chart
>
> p. 15 - if not sure about this, remove for now
>
> p. 17 - get new pie chart (but put it on p. 23 instead)
>
> - you need to add discussion of BCP-017 that
>
> changed sRTM cost share from 67% to 100%, in agreement
>
> with LAr MOU
>
> pp. 18+20 - get new graphics
>
> p. 19 - say something about how SBU qualifies vendors
>
> and will choose (see my L3 as an example)
>
> p. 21+22+23 - need to update
>
> - for drilldown slides, state which Attachment from BOE
>
> in each case. Also put a box(es) around the number(s)
>
> you are extracting from each, to guide the reviewers
>
> - rather than just keep saying the numbers are wrong,
>
> I suggest you provide explanation early on.  ie. cost
>
> share was changed from 67% to 100%, but error made
>
> using 2/3 instead, so numbers are very slightly off
>
> but will be brought into exact agreement before FDR
>
> - also, for each of the costs you need you have
>
> justified, you need to show the tasks with those
>
> costs in the Drilldown Report (ie. show how you
>
> get from the BOE and quotes to the Drilldown Report)
>
> p. 27 - to be written (look at our talks for examples)
>
> p. 30+31 - need to do (including individual Risk slides)
>
> On 7/20/19 2:42 PM, John Parsons wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>            After Friday's walkthrough of my L2 talk, I
>
>     updated the slides and posted a new version on this Tuesday's
>
>     agenda page at https://indico.bnl.gov/event/6491/.  A
>
>     reminder that we will go through the various L3 talks
>
>     during the meeting.  If anyone can take a look and
>
>     send comments, that would be helpful.
>
>            Andy/Tim, have you updated your
>
>     talks after Hong's comments and uploaded a new version
>
>     to that indico page?
>
>            We also need to get the updated BOEs into docdb.
>
>     Andy/Tim, let me know when you have done that.  Everyone has
>
>     implmented Hong's comments?  Let's archive the latest BOE
>
>     also on the same indico page as the L3 talks; I see Andy
>
>     has already done that.  I just put mine there also.
>
>            Regards,
>
>                John
>
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