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[John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>]

Thanks for the reminder.  There was only 1 (related to the COTS ADC)
that is closed. I will add a slide.

On 7/20/19 6:40 PM, Ma, Hong wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> In your L2 talk,  I don’t see the responses to the recommendations.  
> Were there any from PDR ?
>
> Hong.
>
> *From: *John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
> *Date: *Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 6:38 PM
> *To: *"Ma, Hong" <hma AT bnl.gov>
> *Cc: *"usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov" 
> <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> *Subject: *Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] updates of NSF talk and other docs
>
> Hi Hong,
>
> Thanks for the comments.  I made the changes
>
> (the last one was copy/paste from my L2 talk, so I
>
> left it in L2 but took it out of L3).
>
> John
>
> On 7/20/19 6:27 PM, Ma, Hong wrote:
>
>     Hi John,
>
>                        A few minor comments on your FEB2 L3 talk.
>
>     Slide 5:
>
>                        The first highlight box can start with “final
>
>     prototyping”, instead of just “prototyping”
>
>     Slide 7:
>
>                        “Need to measure deposited energies with
>     resolution <
>
>     0.25%”.
>
>                        This sounds like you need to measure all energies
>     with
>
>     that resolution.
>
>     “Need to measure deposited energies with as high resolution as < 0.25%”.
>
>     Slide 22:
>
>     “ mostly for postdoc supported on Columbia NSF base grant”
>
>     I see some uncosted student efforts in RLS. Are they really small
>
>     compared to postdocs?
>
>     Slide 25:
>
>     “(eg. for ASICs, for which the designs are now well advanced and sizes
>
>     known better)”
>
>     But ASICs are not part of FEB2 cost.
>
>     Hong.
>
>     *From: *Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l
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>     <usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov
>     <mailto:usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>> on behalf
>     of John
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>     Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu <mailto:parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>>
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>     *Date: *Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 3:34 PM
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>     *To: *"usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov
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>     *Subject: *Re: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] updates of NSF talk and
>     other docs
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     I looked quickly through other L3 talks
>
>     and give some comments below.
>
>     John
>
>     Tim
>
>     p. 19 - "At start of MREFC, Final Prototype ADC..."
>
>     (MREFC is missing.  Also, I have been calling them
>
>     "Final Prototypes" to stress "construction ready"
>
>     aspect, so let's all to that consistently
>
>     p. 25 - "Data and control...   conclude."
>
>     - make a stronger stmt that these tests
>
>     "will demonstrate the design and implementation of
>
>     the data and control optical links for the FEB2"
>
>     to stress (again) the construction ready nature
>
>     p. 26 - typo "allows"
>
>     p. 28 - instead of "no changes" I would say the big
>
>     change is that the Analog Testboard has verified the
>
>     functionality of the interfaces
>
>     p. 30 - typo "closed"
>
>     p. 31 - you say "first test planned" but it is already
>
>     working
>
>     p. 34 - update table from my L2 talk
>
>     p. 37 - remove reduction until next slide, where it
>
>     is explained as a shift from FE to BE
>
>     p. 38 - add that shift from FE was done by reducing
>
>     67% to 54% in optics, as agreed in MOU
>
>     p. 39 - update pie chart
>
>     p. 41 - add that ASICs purchased through CERN Frame Contract
>
>     with TSMC
>
>     p. 43 - delete
>
>     p. 44 - update chart
>
>     p. 45-46 - need some text.  Consider using ATLAS review dates
>
>     pp. 47+48 - delete (those charts aren't made any more
>
>     p. 50 - make clear this is about optics
>
>     p. 51 - you are right, we now using 66.2% (need to
>
>     fix previous table of 100% on p. 34
>
>     and also anywhere where we might have said 67%)
>
>     p. 51 - say something about die size and how you get
>
>     number of wafers?
>
>     p. 58 - why 75 wafers here? (typo?)
>
>     p. 59 - typo "allows"
>
>            - suggest to add "original construction" in addition
>
>     to Phase 1
>
>     p. 62 - delete, since you put earlier
>
>     p. 62 - not updated
>
>     - at end, you are supposed to have your 1 risk/page
>
>     risk pages (ie. in the format from the risk scrubbing)
>
>     Andy
>
>     p. 2 - delete red box
>
>     p. 4 - expand this to 3-4 slides; there is no need to
>
>     cram all this on one slide
>
>     - also, update system block diag from my L2 talk
>
>     p. 5 - either fill in or delete (I don't think we need
>
>     names of people, but you need to say somewhere that
>
>     SBU/UAz did similar tasks in Ph 1
>
>     p. 6 - don't mix "carrier" and "main"; choose one
>
>            - stress that functionality for US is the same,
>
>     just the details of the h/w implementation has changed
>
>     (we need to rely on Ph. 1 experience to argue we
>
>     are "construction ready", so promote the analogy
>
>     from Ph 1 to HL-LHC)
>
>     p. 8 - you have space to make fig a bit bigger (and more
>
>     readable)
>
>     p. 9 - change title to "PreMREFC/MREFC Boundary"
>
>           - we should discuss with PO how they want to handle
>
>     the 5 mo. float issue.  They have said in past they would
>
>     like to try funding the sRTM v1 fab already in preMREFC,
>
>     but I don't know if they still hope for that, and in
>
>     any case what they want us to say.  I will ask
>
>           - also we need to be careful about MREFC and maturity
>
>     of design when it starts (ie. "construction ready".
>
>     You should end preMREFC bit saying Ph 1/eval board work/
>
>     design of v1 sRTM will deliver a design that meets the
>
>     FDR requirements.  Then MREFC will test v1, design and
>
>     test v2, do prototype, then pre(prod).  See the slide
>
>     in my L2 talk about this
>
>     p. 10+12 - need to fill in.  See slides in my L3 and Tim's
>
>     as examples
>
>     p. 14 - take new org chart from my L2 talk
>
>          - too simplified view of partners?  (eg. f/w certainly
>
>     has many groups)
>
>           - I would suggest to separate this from org chart
>
>     p. 15 - if not sure about this, remove for now
>
>     p. 17 - get new pie chart (but put it on p. 23 instead)
>
>     - you need to add discussion of BCP-017 that
>
>     changed sRTM cost share from 67% to 100%, in agreement
>
>     with LAr MOU
>
>     pp. 18+20 - get new graphics
>
>     p. 19 - say something about how SBU qualifies vendors
>
>     and will choose (see my L3 as an example)
>
>     p. 21+22+23 - need to update
>
>     - for drilldown slides, state which Attachment from BOE
>
>     in each case. Also put a box(es) around the number(s)
>
>     you are extracting from each, to guide the reviewers
>
>     - rather than just keep saying the numbers are wrong,
>
>     I suggest you provide explanation early on.  ie. cost
>
>     share was changed from 67% to 100%, but error made
>
>     using 2/3 instead, so numbers are very slightly off
>
>     but will be brought into exact agreement before FDR
>
>     - also, for each of the costs you need you have
>
>     justified, you need to show the tasks with those
>
>     costs in the Drilldown Report (ie. show how you
>
>     get from the BOE and quotes to the Drilldown Report)
>
>     p. 27 - to be written (look at our talks for examples)
>
>     p. 30+31 - need to do (including individual Risk slides)
>
>     On 7/20/19 2:42 PM, John Parsons wrote:
>
>           Hi all,
>
>                  After Friday's walkthrough of my L2 talk, I
>
>           updated the slides and posted a new version on this Tuesday's
>
>           agenda page at https://indico.bnl.gov/event/6491/.  A
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>           reminder that we will go through the various L3 talks
>
>           during the meeting.  If anyone can take a look and
>
>           send comments, that would be helpful.
>
>                  Andy/Tim, have you updated your
>
>           talks after Hong's comments and uploaded a new version
>
>           to that indico page?
>
>                  We also need to get the updated BOEs into docdb.
>
>           Andy/Tim, let me know when you have done that.  Everyone has
>
>           implmented Hong's comments?  Let's archive the latest BOE
>
>           also on the same indico page as the L3 talks; I see Andy
>
>           has already done that.  I just put mine there also.
>
>                  Regards,
>
>                      John
>
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