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["Xu, Hao" <haoxu AT bnl.gov>]

Thanks John.
I'm working on that and VARs.
Could you please let me know how to check the VARs?
Thank you very much.

Regards,
Hao

-----Original Message-----
From: Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l 
<usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> On Behalf Of John Parsons
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 11:40 AM
To: usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l AT lists.bnl.gov
Subject: [Usatlas-hllhc-lartl2l3-l] Fwd: Re: AP2 LAr 6.04 BCPs DOE-023 and 
NSF-1102


Andy and Hao need to fill out the BCP forms.  Please do this right away, 
since we need to get the approval on Tuesday.

                John


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: AP2 LAr 6.04 BCPs DOE-023 and NSF-1102
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 10:48:00 +0100
From: Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>
To: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>, Novakova, Penka N 
<penka AT bnl.gov>, OConnor, Jennifer <jennifer AT bnl.gov>
CC: Hong Ma <hma AT bnl.gov>


Hi,

Great.  Can you have the L3 managers fill out the BCP forms?  Here's the 
latest template.

Best,

Gustaaf

On 10/31/19 8:57 PM, John Parsons wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>      Apart from some very minor things that do not
> need to be changed now, I have not found nor heard
> from my LAr team of any other issues with the current version.
> So, I consider that these two BCPs (ie. one for DOE and
> one for NSF) are ready to move ahead next week.
>      Regards,
>          John
> 
> On 10/29/19 5:04 PM, John Parsons wrote:
>>
>> Hi Penka,
>>
>>      Thanks for the help.  I do believe it will be worth
>> some effort to evolve the new format so that it does include
>> the milestones.  For example, in LAr, all of our links between
>> separate L3s, including within one funding agency but also
>> between DOE and NSF, are implemented via (REQD and AVAIL)
>> milestones; if those are missing in a report, it is difficult
>> to follow the logic about how one L3 might be driving another, ...
>>      We are reviewing the latest version to verify
>> that all the changes we have made are doing what we
>> expect, and hope to be ready for next week's CCB.  I
>> will update you by COB on Thursday.
>>      Regards,
>>          John
>>
>> On 10/29/19 1:11 PM, Novakova, Penka N wrote:
>>> John,
>>> The pdf report has all activities and milestones that have been 
>>> changed. It is definitely easier to review your change in the pdf - 
>>> it shows how the dates have moved. Please call me or Jenn and we can 
>>> walk you through the schedule.
>>> My philosophy is that the CAMs should be able to read their schedules 
>>> (not spreadsheets) and understand what changes they have requested 
>>> and how these changes impact the schedules of other CAMs. Perhaps we 
>>> need to train them but this is critical for the success of the project.
>>> I have made a report with all activities and milestones - it took me 
>>> a while to generate it. Again remember that in the scrubbing report 
>>> you don't see the number of hours by resource and many CAMs have 
>>> complained about this. Therefore we decided to move to a new format 
>>> that will have this information but does not show activities without 
>>> resources (milestones).
>>> We will try to make this report with milestones in the future but I 
>>> cannot guarantee that it will be available right after the change is 
>>> complete.
>>> Let me know if you have any questions.
>>> Thanks,
>>> penka
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 11:19 AM
>>> To: OConnor, Jennifer <jennifer AT bnl.gov>; Novakova, Penka N 
>>> <penka AT bnl.gov>
>>> Cc: Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: AP2 LAr 6.04 BCPs DOE-023 and NSF-1102
>>>
>>>
>>> Our previous Scrubbing Reports had all the tasks; why is that no 
>>> longer possible?  It is much simpler to check a single file, rather 
>>> than having to cross-check back and forth between two different files.
>>>
>>>         John
>>>
>>> On 10/29/19 7:41 AM, OConnor, Jennifer wrote:
>>>> Hi John -
>>>>
>>>> You are correct, the scrubbing report does not contain all 
>>>> activities.  That is because this report comes from Cobra data and 
>>>> we do not have milestones or activities with no resources in Cobra.  
>>>> The PDF is a complete schedule showing all activities.  Both need to 
>>>> be used to compare BCP changes.
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you need any help comparing the changes we made.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Jenn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Parsons <parsons AT nevis.columbia.edu>
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:50 AM
>>>> To: Novakova, Penka N <penka AT bnl.gov>; OConnor, Jennifer
>>>> <jennifer AT bnl.gov>
>>>> Cc: Gustaaf Brooijmans <gusbroo AT nevis.columbia.edu>; Hal Evans
>>>> (hgevans AT indiana.edu) <hgevans AT indiana.edu>; Kotcher, Jonathan
>>>> <kotcher AT bnl.gov>
>>>> Subject: Re: AP2 LAr 6.04 BCPs DOE-023 and NSF-1102
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There seem to be some problems with this report.  Among the 
>>>> modifications I made with Jenn last week were logic changes around 
>>>> task BEE10680 (ATLAS FDR); now that task does not even seem to 
>>>> appear in the new report!  This is also true for some nearby tasks.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe all the milestones are missing?
>>>>
>>>>         John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>
> 

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