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  • From: "Aschenauer, Elke" <elke AT bnl.gov>
  • To: "Kiselev, Alexander" <ayk AT bnl.gov>
  • Cc: "eic-projdet-pfrich-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <eic-projdet-pfrich-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Eic-projdet-pfrich-l] pfRICH space reduced by 5cm
  • Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 21:51:29 +0000

yes, i do mean the lever arm, so the L.
The main objection agains the ScFI tracker is no new technologies anymore we need to converge, CD-3A is in November.

Cheers elke

On Jun 13, 2023, at 15:43, Kiselev, Alexander <ayk AT bnl.gov> wrote:

  Dear Elke,

  I believe you mean for the lever arm, rather than for the Bdl. Nikolai, one objection against a SciFi tracker may be the required channel count in order to get the same spatial resolution as a typical 1D MPGD can achieve. Although for pattern recognition purposes one may want to use a very fine pitch (and a 2+1D redundancy) anyway. 

  Regards,
    Alexander.




From: Aschenauer, Elke
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 1:38 PM
To: Nikolai Smirnov
Cc: Aschenauer, Elke; Kiselev, Alexander; eic-projdet-pfrich-l AT lists.bnl.gov
Subject: Re: [Eic-projdet-pfrich-l] pfRICH space reduced by 5cm

Dear Nicolai,

yes but tracking detector planes needs also to be separated in space for the BdL, my 5cm request stands.

Cheers elke

On Jun 13, 2023, at 12:04, Nikolai Smirnov via Eic-projdet-pfrich-l <eic-projdet-pfrich-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:

Dear All,
If this "5 cm request" is due to the "installation" of an additional tracking station, I would like to remind you that the best solution can be SciFibers.
I will need <1 cm in Z (compact), fast, low mass, and good tracking setup.
Best regards, Nikolai.

PS. It can be a rather "valuable" R&D and simulation activity, if the team (new, old) will stand up to prepare the proposal.



On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 10:52 AM Kiselev, Alexander via Eic-projdet-pfrich-l <eic-projdet-pfrich-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
  Hello colleagues,

  Not unexpectedly, as part of the ePIC e-endcap tracker optimization, the space allocated for the pfRICH was reduced by 5cm along the beam line.

  Alex, please we need realistic estimates of the overall envelope for the pfRICH vessel, especially at Rmax, Zmin and Zmax. Remember, the v03 pfRICH GDML geometry was still in a "few mm overlap" conflict with the neighboring subdetectors, meaning the clearances may have not been observed strictly, even before this 5cm reduction.

  Then we check with Chandra what the implications on the pfRICH performance are.

  All in all, it sounds like we should discuss the incorporation of other possible pfRICH extensions (either pyramid funneling mirrors or a second aerogel layer a la Belle II  or both) in the baseline configuration at our Thursday meeting, before the transition from mRICH to pfRICH is concluded in P6.

  Regards,
    Alexander.
 

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